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Anyone know these folks?
« on: September 29, 2021, 11:30:09 PM »
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alhawke

Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2021, 01:06:52 AM »
I've never heard of them. Maybe they're a re-branded old company? The website dates 2021 but comments are 2015-2017. Weird.
 

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Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2021, 01:50:37 AM »
I've never heard of them. Maybe they're a re-branded old company? The website dates 2021 but comments are 2015-2017. Weird.

Do you mean the copyright date of 2021 at the bottom?  Lots of sites use a script that just insert the current year there.  Not exactly proper if nothing has been changed in the current year that merits an updated copyright year, but it's an unfortunate common practice.

The domain name itself was registered in June of 2015 and the Internet Wayback Machine shows they had an active website in July of 2015.
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Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2021, 09:39:35 AM »
I don't care about social. I don't care about tweets. I only care about email.

That being the case, I'd do the following:

1. Ask for the site for the sub url for the "daily newsletter."

2. Sub.

3. Watch the newsletter for two weeks (to get an idea of engagement for each day of the week).

4. Each day, check the sales ranks of the books in your genre that were promoted in the "daily newsletter" the previous day.

It's not a perfect approach. If a promoted book shows a sales rank of 1,234, you won't know whether another promo contributed to that rank. But this is as close as you'll get to knowing whether a promo service is worth using.

If a promoted book ranks 50,000 the day after, you can ghost the service knowing you're not missing anything.
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Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2021, 09:45:25 AM »
I don't care about social. I don't care about tweets. I only care about email.
...

That works for those who have an established audience/following. Marketing dynamics have shifted and finding a path to eyeballs now requires advertising on social platforms.  Unless, of course, you can afford the $2k starting price for a "one-day" AD on the high-volume (traffic) sites.

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Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2021, 09:52:40 AM »
I don't care about social. I don't care about tweets. I only care about email.
...

Marketing dynamics have shifted and finding a path to eyeballs now requires advertising on social platforms.

I disagree. In any case, I wish you success.
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Marti Talbott

Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2021, 01:30:39 AM »
I don't care about social. I don't care about tweets. I only care about email.

That being the case, I'd do the following:

1. Ask for the site for the sub url for the "daily newsletter."

2. Sub.

3. Watch the newsletter for two weeks (to get an idea of engagement for each day of the week).

4. Each day, check the sales ranks of the books in your genre that were promoted in the "daily newsletter" the previous day.

It's not a perfect approach. If a promoted book shows a sales rank of 1,234, you won't know whether another promo contributed to that rank. But this is as close as you'll get to knowing whether a promo service is worth using.

If a promoted book ranks 50,000 the day after, you can ghost the service knowing you're not missing anything.

Good advice, thanks!
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Re: Anyone know these folks?
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2021, 09:44:18 AM »
I checked a box set published in 2018 that they promoted yesterday. It had no best seller ranking.  :icon_eek: