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KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« on: November 16, 2018, 07:59:31 AM »
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Re: FUND UPDATE: NEW KENP
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2018, 07:12:55 PM »
Thanks for getting the info! 
 

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Re: FUND UPDATE: NEW KENP
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 04:30:41 PM »
Thank you. Looks like it's staying up this quarter like other years.
 

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Re: FUND UPDATE: NEW KENP
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2018, 01:31:36 AM »
Thank you - always grateful when someone else gets their calculator out.  :icon_mrgreen:
     



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Re: FUND UPDATE: NEW KENP
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2018, 01:50:21 AM »
Shoe, Glynn Stewart used to keep the kenpc payout stats over on KB. But he hasn't moved here at all. (Not surprising, given how much writing he does.)

Would you be interested in doing a running monthly thread, where the rate is updated in the OP each month? I'll sticky it so it's easily found.

If not Shoe, then would someone like to step up?

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Re: FUND UPDATE: NEW KENP
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2018, 11:29:42 PM »
Figures for November, according to PhoenixFromTheAshes on KBoards:

US = .005206
UK = .003740
DE = .003149
CA = .004586
IN = .101256
AU = .004141

Highest rate for quite some time, I think.  Grin

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates: 0.005206 for Nov 18.
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2018, 01:52:31 AM »
.de, .au and .ca still getting hosed, I see. Sigh.
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates: 0.005206 for Nov 18.
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2018, 01:58:42 AM »
.de, .au and .ca still getting hosed, I see. Sigh.

I can understand au. Only been available for a short time, and probably very few people using it. No-one I mention it to here has every heard of it.
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Re: FUND UPDATE: NEW KENP
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2018, 03:20:46 AM »
Figures for November, according to PhoenixFromTheAshes on KBoards:

US = .005206
UK = .003740
DE = .003149
CA = .004586
IN = .101256
AU = .004141

Highest rate for quite some time, I think.  Grin

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Ooh thank you. I thought the U.S. payment was better than usual!   :banana:
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates: 0.005206 for Nov 18.
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2018, 03:35:13 PM »
.de, .au and .ca still getting hosed, I see. Sigh.

I can understand au. Only been available for a short time, and probably very few people using it. No-one I mention it to here has every heard of it.

There's no reason the .au rate should be so much lower, one would think. The .de rate has something to do with fees Germany charges, and Amazon is taking out of our cut. Not sure about Canada.
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates: 0.005206 for Nov 18.
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2018, 03:47:13 PM »
There's no reason the .au rate should be so much lower, one would think.

Very likely is reduced by the 10% GST.
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates: 0.005206 for Nov 18.
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2018, 03:56:44 AM »
There's no reason the .au rate should be so much lower, one would think.

Very likely is reduced by the 10% GST.

Given the value of the Aussie dollar against the US, the .au rate works out to something like .0028 USD--a lot more than a 10% difference.

At least the Euro and GBP rates are offset somewhat by the currency value.

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates: 0.005206 for Nov 18.
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2019, 12:39:18 AM »
Did anyone do the rate for January?
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2019, 06:44:43 AM »
$0.0048778433024431 according to KBoards (December rate)
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2019, 06:17:42 AM »
Now .0044, or the lowest it's been since I started publishing.
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2019, 06:32:13 PM »
Anybody worked out March and April?

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2019, 03:17:32 AM »
March was 0.0045, by my calculations.

April's report isn't out yet but will be around the 15th this month.
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2019, 03:55:07 AM »
March was 0.0045, by my calculations.

April's report isn't out yet but will be around the 15th this month.

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2019, 04:44:04 AM »
April's payout is 0.0047, by my calculations.

 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2019, 04:52:18 AM »
April's payout is 0.0047, by my calculations.

That's a move in the right direction - even if tiny  :icon_rolleyes:

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2019, 11:28:44 AM »
Anyone do May's payout?
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2019, 01:46:35 AM »
May's payout won't be available until middle of June. I expect they'll publish the reports on Friday, June 14th since the 15th (usual day) falls on a Saturday.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2019, 01:48:25 AM »
Damn. I'm ahead of myself.
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2019, 02:01:57 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2019, 01:57:39 PM »
By my calculations, May's payout is $0.0047 (same as April).
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2019, 05:32:08 PM »
By my calculations, May's payout is $0.0047 (same as April).

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2019, 10:58:18 AM »
By my calculations, May's payout is $0.0047 (same as April).

I use $0.0045 for my KENP revenue estimates, so higher is always welcome!
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2019, 05:05:24 AM »
Barring anyone else coming up with a better figure, June seems to be 0.00465.
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2019, 10:29:49 AM »
My calculation says 0.004642167.
 
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2019, 03:34:56 AM »
July: .0044 (.004349 got me closest to the exact US payout figure).  :icon_sad:
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2019, 04:11:43 AM »
Thanks for doing the math.
I just wish those numbers were better.
Yikes.
Let's hope that payout gets better next month. 
 
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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2019, 08:57:27 AM »
Thanks for doing the calculations. The rate stinks. :HB
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2019, 05:41:04 PM »
Does anyone have a full list since KU2 began?
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2019, 07:44:12 PM »
That's a big drop.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2019, 08:21:35 PM »
That's a big drop.

Yes. But for the last few months we've been talking in the Lagoon about banned authors suspected of being back in KU.

For me, this confirms it. As the scammers get back in, the page reads rise, and the rate drops.

We've seen this enough times now for it to be relatively obvious.
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2019, 08:32:41 PM »
But the recent bannings were at the end of June.

This was July's rate.

So I'm not sure the assertion holds - presumably if a bunch of scammers were actually manipulating page reads, and got terminated, we'd have seen July's rate increase, or at least hold steady with the prior month - and not drop 5%.

Especially as all three banned authors were top 100 author rank authors. Seems like a very aberrant data point to me.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2019, 08:40:33 PM »
This was July's rate.

No, we just got June's rate, which is paid end of Aug.

So yes, it includes the recently banned authors KU reads.

The interesting thing will be if July's improves or not.
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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2019, 08:48:55 PM »
This was July's rate.

No, we just got June's rate, which is paid end of Aug.

So yes, it includes the recently banned authors KU reads.

The interesting thing will be if July's improves or not.

That's incorrect, Timothy. The rate is always released midway through the following month. We knew June's rate in mid-July. We'll know August's rate in mid-September.

As evidence I introduce the actual email copy sent by Amazon:

The KDP Select Global Fund for July is $25.6 million.

We will again award "KDP Select All-Stars" for July to the most-read authors and most-read titles in the U.S., U.K. and Germany. All bonuses will be awarded based on total Kindle Edition Normalized Pages read during the month. We will also award bonuses for illustrated kids’ books – the top 100 most read titles in the U.S. and top 25 in the U.K. will receive such bonuses.


So no, it doesn't include the recently banned authors' KU reads.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2019, 10:38:43 PM »
Correct. 0.0044 (rounded up) is for July.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2019, 11:24:46 PM »
I got confused with the payment cycle. I stand corrected.

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2019, 03:36:16 AM »
But the recent bannings were at the end of June.

This was July's rate.

So I'm not sure the assertion holds - presumably if a bunch of scammers were actually manipulating page reads, and got terminated, we'd have seen July's rate increase, or at least hold steady with the prior month - and not drop 5%.

Especially as all three banned authors were top 100 author rank authors. Seems like a very aberrant data point to me.

I'm not sure Timothy is talking about the recent account terminations, but instead that there are several people who believe (through gathered information they have shared with others) some of the authors who lost their accounts over a year ago are back and up to some of their old tricks.
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2019, 08:41:51 AM »
The new KENP rate appears to be $0.004387.
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2019, 09:24:57 AM »
The new KENP rate appears to be $0.004387.

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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2019, 01:46:28 AM »
September 2019: $0.004659784 (Exactly, and approximately)
 
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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2019, 02:07:24 AM »
That's more like it. 
Thank you for calculating that. 

While I'm happy for the increase, I wonder if it happened because a lot of authors are seeing low page read numbers than normal.
I certainly am.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2019, 05:27:49 AM »
Thanks for calculating.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2020, 12:10:31 AM »
Anyone know where we can find the figures for more recent months, please? I have no idea where to look - even if I could then work it out.  :icon_redface:
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2020, 12:12:23 AM »
Anyone know where we can find the figures for more recent months, please? I have no idea where to look - even if I could then work it out.  :icon_redface:

Figure for this month isn't out yet. I think if you scroll back we were up to date.
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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2020, 12:42:13 AM »
Thanks, Tim, but the last one here is for September 2019.
 

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Re: KENPC payout monthly rates sticky.
« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2020, 02:49:27 PM »
New rate announced 16 May 2020 - KENP rate for April is $0.00422627

Saw it on Fb.

Big drop, which presumably reflects a huge number of new pages read due to lockdown.
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