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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Beta Readers
« Last post by TimothyEllis on October 16, 2021, 12:46:21 AM »
Maybe a better question is: How do you safely distribute a manuscript for beta readers?

You side load it directly onto their devices as a mobi.
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TV/Movie Talk [Public] / Re: What movie did you recently watch?
« Last post by PJ Post on October 15, 2021, 11:08:31 PM »
I like the idea of westerns - they're kind of mixed up with Star Wars and adventure SF in my head. I remember watching the War Wagon as a kid and thinking it was the coolest thing ever. And then Westworld came along...

What are the better westerns out there - ones that might hold up?
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Beta Readers
« Last post by R. C. on October 15, 2021, 10:25:12 PM »
Do you have that many beta readers that you need their feedback organized...

I thought this might be a way to entice a broader beta reader audience.

Maybe a better question is: How do you safely distribute a manuscript for beta readers?

R.C.
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TV/Movie Talk [Public] / Re: What movie did you recently watch?
« Last post by j tanner on October 15, 2021, 05:43:31 PM »
I watched Once Upon A Time In The West last night. 

I like Westerns and caught up with this one a couple years back. My reaction was similar. That first sequence deserves the hype but the rest is fairly inert. I had a similar reaction to The Wild Bunch--I arrived far to late to the party for it to have the impact it had at the time. I still have a few of the classics to catch up with but I'm afraid none of them are going to stand the test of time too well.
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Other Services [Public] / Re: Publish Drive charging publishers now?
« Last post by Jeff Tanyard on October 15, 2021, 01:00:37 PM »
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I still have my account there, and I'm grandfathered into the non-subscription service, so I don't pay a monthly fee yet.  I haven't tried publishing a book there since they made their pricing structure change, though, so I don't know what would happen.

If they start charging me, I'm out.

So, I went back into my account, no books (I joined a while back when Pronoun had just dropped its exclusivity clause and trying to find a way onto Google), but I could skip the option to pick a plan. I haven't tried to publish anything through them yet, but I do wonder how that will work if I try to publish something. (Also, PD allows for authors splitting royalties, but it's an extra charge, as near as I can tell, no extra charge for D2D, short of the 10% they take off the top.) I'm not sure how they'll handle authors who are grandfathered in without any books on their dash?


I have no idea.


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One reason I hesitated with PublishDrive was because they had a minimum payout. So, when I was just going wide, I wasn't sure how my sales would go and hated the idea of them holding on to my money indefinitely. As far as I know, that hasn't changed. So, basically, I could be paying them to hold on to my money indefinitely?


It would only be "indefinitely" if you're not making any new sales.  And if you're not making any sales, then paying up front for the service doesn't make sense to begin with.  This is a situation where you have to predict the future as best you can if you want to avoid losing money.   :dizzy

At this point, and in my opinion, PD is really only an option for two kinds of people: those like me who opened accounts when it was free to publish books there, and those who are already high-selling authors and are very confident that their sales via PD will outweigh the up-front costs.  It makes no sense for new authors, and it probably doesn't make sense for many authors who already sell decently.  There's no guarantee that momentum on Amazon will translate to PD's stores.  We've all heard the stories of authors who kill it in KU but flop when they go wide.  At PD, you pay a premium to flop.  At D2D, it's free.  Advantage = D2D.

Again, just my opinion.  I don't make any sales there at all, and I only rarely even log in.  I'm not the expert on PD by any means.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Beta Readers
« Last post by idontknowyet on October 15, 2021, 10:29:44 AM »
Do you have that many beta readers that you need their feedback organized. I need betas personally not someone to sort through their responses for me.

But no ive never heard of them.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Beta Readers
« Last post by R. C. on October 15, 2021, 09:14:05 AM »
Anybody use these guys to for beta readers: BetaBooks

They have as simple TOS. It seems like something to try...

R.C.
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Other Services [Public] / Re: Publish Drive charging publishers now?
« Last post by RPatton on October 15, 2021, 07:54:57 AM »
I would prefer to pay a one time set fee than royalty split anytime. that lifetime $69 doesnt sound bad if they do the same thing as D2D get your books on dozens of platforms and collect your royalites for you.

For big selling authors a flat fee works out better than a royalty split. But their lifetime deal caps out the number of books, and there's no clear answer what happens next. Conceivably you could be stuck going to $99 a month to publish your next book. Again, that's still probably a decent deal over 10% royalty, but it sort of flies in the face of the typical one-and-done payment most people would think this is.

The $69 deal limits the number of books and it's based on format. So 24 books means 12 ebooks and 12 paperbacks or 8 ebooks, 8 paperbacks, and 8 audio.

You can go up a tier to 96 individual formats for $139. I'm not really sure who the market is for this, that's what has me confused. Most authors are going to go direct, using distributors for one-off storefronts (or Apple, with authors who don't have a Mac and don't want to mess with Mac in Air). It looks as though you can run ads through AMS on PD, but I'm not sure how that works. As for the other "promotions" they are the same promos you get going direct and as near as I can tell, direct authors seem to be favored (which totally makes sense). It is interesting that they claim no cut, but it looks like they do take a cut when it comes to print books. Also, that $139 lifetime deal for 96 books is actually a good deal considering that they charge $99/month for up to 48 books. Although, it looks as though you can ask for a custom deal if you have more books.

I still have my account there, and I'm grandfathered into the non-subscription service, so I don't pay a monthly fee yet.  I haven't tried publishing a book there since they made their pricing structure change, though, so I don't know what would happen.

If they start charging me, I'm out.

So, I went back into my account, no books (I joined a while back when Pronoun had just dropped its exclusivity clause and trying to find a way onto Google), but I could skip the option to pick a plan. I haven't tried to publish anything through them yet, but I do wonder how that will work if I try to publish something. (Also, PD allows for authors splitting royalties, but it's an extra charge, as near as I can tell, no extra charge for D2D, short of the 10% they take off the top.) I'm not sure how they'll handle authors who are grandfathered in without any books on their dash?

One reason I hesitated with PublishDrive was because they had a minimum payout. So, when I was just going wide, I wasn't sure how my sales would go and hated the idea of them holding on to my money indefinitely. As far as I know, that hasn't changed. So, basically, I could be paying them to hold on to my money indefinitely?
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TV/Movie Talk [Public] / Re: What movie did you recently watch?
« Last post by Maggie Ann on October 15, 2021, 06:52:04 AM »
Indiscreet - Ingrid Bergman and Cary Grant. It's one of my favorites.

I had to laugh because this movie was made in 1958 and they talk about having read an article that the world's climate is changing.

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TV/Movie Talk [Public] / Re: What movie did you recently watch?
« Last post by Jeff Tanyard on October 15, 2021, 05:55:09 AM »
I watched Once Upon A Time In The West last night.  It's free on YouTube.

I'd never seen it before.

My thoughts:

The first third of the movie was fantastic.  Truly epic.  Then it started dragging.  Then the sequence near the end became confusing, and I wasn't sure what had happened or what was happening.  Then the final showdown occurred, and it was a bit anticlimactic.  I suppose I was hoping for something like the showdown in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

In summary, I'm glad I saw it, but I'm sort of "meh" about it.
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