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Corporate Sector => What are Amazon doing now? [Public] => Topic started by: idontknowyet on July 20, 2021, 12:30:58 PM
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did everyone just receive and email from amazon changing their terms of service to now allow more than arbitration.
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Nope. I checked the Message Center on my Amazon account and there's nothing there, either.
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Yes. Lobbed in a short time ago.
Major change:
Arbitration has been replaced by court (without jury) in a specific state in the US.
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Yes. Lobbed in a short time ago.
Major change:
Arbitration has been replaced by court (without jury) in a specific state in the US.
Sounds like Amazon lost a lawsuit.
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Sounds like Amazon lost a lawsuit.
Or someone challenged them in court over being able to limit legal options in ToS to just arbitration.
And they lost.
Not sure you call that a lawsuit.
But they obviously lost something.
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A little googling turned up this. It's behind a paywall, but you can read the first few paragraphs.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-faced-75-000-arbitration-demands-now-it-says-fine-sue-us-11622547000
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A little googling turned up this. It's behind a paywall, but you can read the first few paragraphs.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-faced-75-000-arbitration-demands-now-it-says-fine-sue-us-11622547000
I classify that as 'lost something'. grint
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Sounds like Amazon lost a lawsuit.
Or someone challenged them in court over being able to limit legal options in ToS to just arbitration.
And they lost.
Not sure you call that a lawsuit.
But they obviously lost something.
Nope. They didn't lose anything.
They had 75,000 arbitration cases filed against them. It's a strategy that has been effective in getting companies in front of judges (and in some cases juries). In this case, the 75,000 arbitration filings meant Amazon got a bill for over $10 million, since by their own TOS, they pay the filing fees.
While dropping arbitration completely is an unusual response, I can see Amazon wanting this to go to court. It's Alexa users suing for Alexa recording them. Obviously Amazon thinks they have a decent enough case to be willing to take on these 75,000 plaintiffs in a class-action suit. (Door Dash, Lyft, and Uber all still use arbitration despite getting bombed with cases too, though not 75,000, I think Door Dash had like 5000 cases filed.)
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Nope. They didn't lose anything.
They had 75,000 arbitration cases filed against them. It's a strategy that has been effective in getting companies in front of judges (and in some cases juries). In this case, the 75,000 arbitration filings meant Amazon got a bill for over $10 million, since by their own TOS, they pay the filing fees.
I saw that. I still call it losing. :icon_mrgreen:
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...It's behind a paywall, but you can read the first few paragraphs...
It is not 100%, if you open the link in an incognito window, or the Epic browser, the whole page/article is viewable.
R.C.
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...It's behind a paywall, but you can read the first few paragraphs...
It is not 100%, if you open the link in an incognito window, or the Epic browser, the whole page/article is viewable.
Sometimes turning off JavaScript in your browser works too.