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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by alhawke on September 12, 2024, 09:19:24 AM »
I was referring to the word "pornography". I wouldn't use that word in your keyword choices.

Multiple words are a good idea. A few years ago, KDP Publisher Rocket advised a string of multiple words per line.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 12, 2024, 08:17:51 AM »
I'd get rid of "pornography" in "police infidelity pornography mob mafia"
Algos can easily dungeon your book into erotica for keywords that also fit erotica (it's happened to me before and I had to change keywords)

Thanks A.L. So you're saying the way I did it (save the "pornography") was right? Despite what the KDP rep said?

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that there is a three word maximum per keyword slot, and that the 7 new keywords I've chosen would work out to all kinds of combinations like legal thriller, courtroom drama, legal suspense, legal novel, legal mysteries etc. And that filling up each search box tended to confuse things in terms of the search.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by alhawke on September 12, 2024, 05:51:55 AM »
I'd get rid of "pornography" in "police infidelity pornography mob mafia"
Algos can easily dungeon your book into erotica for keywords that also fit erotica (it's happened to me before and I had to change keywords)
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Are novelists who worry about the rise of AI really ‘classist and ableist’?
The Guardian  11 Sep 2024

The National Novel Writing Month (NaNoWriMo) organization said in a recent statement that “‘The categorical condemnation of artificial intelligence has classist and ableist undertones…questions around the use of AI tie to questions around privilege.’  Er…what?...did someone in the managerial class fire up ChatGPT and prompt it to weaponise social justice language in defence of a technology that has been accused of stealing from artists and writers…and is now making the rich richer? This weird statement sparked a lot of anger and four members of NaNoWriMo’s writers board stepped down in protest….We’re in a Choose Your Own Adventure scenario with AI at the moment. And right now we seem to be choosing the dystopian ending.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/sep/11/are-novelists-who-worry-about-the-rise-of-ai-really-classist-and-ableist
Apparently, the concern is that people with disabilities have to use AI to create literature. The thing is, such people created things before AI existed. There are other options.

As for opposition to AI being classist, it seems to me that defending the massive theft of the IP of others shows far more privilege than attacking the theft.
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AI is incapable of original insight.

But the human user prompting/directing the AI is.
Which brings us back to the question of how much the human author contributed. Certainly, a human using AI to improve workflow is capable of having original insights. But one of the problems with Ai use is that, like Boucher, an author can get stuck defending his work against perhaps unwarranted allegations. Someone who saved the process materials at each stage could certainly prove how much of the writing is truly his creation, but it seems like a hassle, even then.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 12, 2024, 04:25:45 AM »
Thanks, Timothy, but I'm confused. This is what I have now for keywords for The Perfect Lawyer.



Just yesterday, I was told by a KDP rep that there is a three word maximum per keyword slot, and that the 7 new keywords I've chosen would work out to all kinds of combinations like legal thriller, courtroom drama, legal suspense, legal novel, legal mysteries etc. And that filling up each search box tended to confuse things in terms of the search.

Which I thought would be more effective than what I had.

I definitely would add "murder" now that you mention it, but why would "novel" be redundant? People search for "legal novels."


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Are novelists who worry about the rise of AI really ‘classist and ableist’?
The Guardian  11 Sep 2024

The National Novel Writing Month (NaNoWriMo) organization said in a recent statement that “‘The categorical condemnation of artificial intelligence has classist and ableist undertones…questions around the use of AI tie to questions around privilege.’  Er…what?...did someone in the managerial class fire up ChatGPT and prompt it to weaponise social justice language in defence of a technology that has been accused of stealing from artists and writers…and is now making the rich richer? This weird statement sparked a lot of anger and four members of NaNoWriMo’s writers board stepped down in protest….We’re in a Choose Your Own Adventure scenario with AI at the moment. And right now we seem to be choosing the dystopian ending.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/sep/11/are-novelists-who-worry-about-the-rise-of-ai-really-classist-and-ableist
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: Tim Boucher interview defending his use of AI to create works
« Last post by PJ Post on September 11, 2024, 10:01:08 PM »
AI is incapable of original insight.

But the human user prompting/directing the AI is.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on September 11, 2024, 12:01:56 PM »
You get to fill those 7 fields with up to 50 characters each.

So triple the number of words at least.

What was the nature of the crime? What sort of lawyers involved?

Think of every word that someone might search on to find your book, and cram it in somewhere.

Novels is redundant. Urban would be a category. murder trial should be there.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 11, 2024, 11:54:25 AM »
The book is called The Perfect Lawyer.  It's a courtroom drama of a murder trial. The below is what I was thinking of using, and here's the blurb if that helps. Thanks.

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Illinois Attorney Ike Thompson just wants to live out the rest of his days in peace.

Years ago, he was known as “the perfect lawyer” for his high-profile, pressure-packed criminal defense work in downtown Chicago. But after losing a crucial case to up-and-coming prosecutor Ursula “the merciless” Rush, his confidence was shattered, and ever since, he’s resigned himself to doing small-time real estate deals in the sleepy suburbs. He’ll never practice criminal law again. He’s lost his edge. Worse yet, he’s lost his courage.
When he’s asked to defend a sensational murder case that’s inflaming the nation, there’s no way he’s accepting.

But then he learns that the defendant, Mia Hendrickson, a young mother accused of setting the fire that killed her three small children, has been tried in the media and found guilty. That she’s been brutally beaten in jail. And that her public defender is incompetent.

Listening to his heart rather than his better judgment, Ike takes Mia’s case—only to find that his opposing counsel is none other than Ursula Rush. The prosecutor has a slam dunk case. The jury seems to be convinced that Mia is guilty. Ike’s old doubts surface and threaten to overwhelm him. Can he face down his fears—and save Mia’s life?


1. legal
2. courtroom
3. thrillers
4. dramas
5. suspense
6. mysteries
7. novels
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