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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by PJ Post on February 23, 2024, 03:51:01 AM »
All of this is short-term. AI is going to disrupt everything, and by the looks of things, pretty fast. I'm curious where readers/listeners will go for true original content.

I wonder if there is enough time to work within the current system (narrate, package, upload, etc.) or if it makes more sense to figure out the next thing and begin working within those parameters.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by alhawke on February 23, 2024, 03:11:47 AM »
Spotify pays next to nothing for music, how does it treat books?
At the moment, very well. The royalty I've received was like a 1/3 of my asking price which is up there with Chirp (BookBub's audio service). But this could be why that whole contract debacle happened. They could be planning to drive royalties down to pennies, like they've done with the music industry? They lost a lot of writers, so I hear, from their recent contract rights grab mess. I've read they had to freeze their cancel/delete button.
I had a Findaway audiobook added to Audible a bit over a year ago. It took 3 months to not show up there. And then I removed it before it did.
So the delay time from Findaway has certainly been worse.
It's been one month for mine to show up on Audible all last year. I just had my audiobook finally transfer yesterday  grint But it was after 2 1/2 months. So I really have my suspicions over this new beta service. Whatever the case, I'm releasing back to back with three upcoming books so I'm hoping they get accepted quick. I'm not looking to get on Audible for royalties--they're very low wide--as much as I'm looking for the extra visibility for the audio being available.
No AI button for me though.
Audible might be targeting the US market first.?? But who knows what there qualifications are. I have no idea why some of my books are approved for transfer while others, in series, aren't. And some of them noted as available already are audiobooks on Audible. :shrug
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on February 23, 2024, 02:03:16 AM »
I think it's possible that Amazon may not have gotten the AI button completely sorted. Initially, it showed one of my books as ineligible. The message indicated that either the ebook setup wasn't complete or the book had no TOC. It's been out since 2016, so the setup was completed, and of course, it wouldn't have been accepted without a TOC.

I came to the conclusion the book was really ineligible because it already had an audiobook. But a couple of days ago, it flipped over to eligible. So I'm not sure what's going on.

The audio is still listed as a beta. To me, that suggests that not everyone has access yet. And the fact that Amazon nudged me by email about why I wasn't creating any audiobooks yet suggests that initially, they weren't flooded. Rather, they had a lot of people not using the option. But all of this is speculation. Who knows what's really goining on?
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by TimothyEllis on February 23, 2024, 01:36:58 AM »
Thing is, this is the first time the delay has been this bad. I had a blitz of findaway releases last year and the delay was always a month. "Coincidentally" KDP now has that neat button to press AI audio on. I'm thinking this is the culprit. ?? :icon_think:

I had a Findaway audiobook added to Audible a bit over a year ago. It took 3 months to not show up there. And then I removed it before it did.

So the delay time from Findaway has certainly been worse.

No AI button for me though.  :HB
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by PJ Post on February 23, 2024, 01:28:56 AM »
Spotify pays next to nothing for music, how does it treat books?
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by alhawke on February 22, 2024, 11:47:16 AM »
Thing is, this is the first time the delay has been this bad. I had a blitz of findaway releases last year and the delay was always a month. "Coincidentally" KDP now has that neat button to press AI audio on. I'm thinking this is the culprit. ?? :icon_think:
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Similarly, I published an audiobook on Findaway and it quickly reached all outlets except Audible. Findaway has a note on (my) dashboard explaining there are "significant" delays in Audible. I think that whatever you do, at the moment you still need to provide Audible as an option, so I'm waiting on this before doing any promotions.

I'm guessing it is a flood of AI audiobooks that's causing the problem, but it's also weird. You'd expect that Audible has built in to the AI creation all the necessary parameters to meet quality control. Things like noise floor, room noise, and minimum/maximum volumes are surely automatically applied with the AI? So what's to check?

FWIW, if you want to publish an audiobook in episodes, Spotify would work perfectly and you'll be paid royalties immediately.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by The Bass Bagwhan on February 22, 2024, 10:54:01 AM »
I presume from the question you are using full justification to "Evenly distribute your text evenly between the margins."  Also, I suspect you are using a monospaced typeface (font), which will exacerbate the problem.

The short answer is it is almost impossible to get MS Word to evenly space words in full justification. I did find an article here that claims to allow you to alter spacing for words within a line. Essentially, the "solution" recommends changing the spacing for specific words in a line.
 
Sadly, when this happens to me, I rewrite the sentences until they achieve my preferred aesthetic.

R.C.

It's worth asking ... the font is Trebuchet. Not my favourite choice, I prefer Times New Roman or Georgia. Is Trebuchet a problematic font?

I put several fonts to the test - Here

After confirming with 'Zon that is available for use, I prefer Bookerly for almost all books. You'll notice in the PDF, the differences are subtle but there are differences. It comes down to how much time you want to spend to achieve a marginal improvement.

On the topic of alternative tools, I have experimented a couple of times with InDesign. I found it not intuitive, cumbersome to use, and overly complex for simple actions. Example, there is no “Import” you must use a keying sequence to “Place” text into a document. But, the formatting is either lost or misaligned. I use MS Word, save as a PDF for loading into the distributors, and the paperbacks look just fine.


R.C.
Yes, I realised that I had a copy of InDesign available and watched a few video tutorials ... some of the workflows are familiar because I use Photoshop, but it is a lot to understand just to format a text-only novel. Then I found out I couldn't install InDesign anyway because, I think, it's CS5 from 2010 and I'm on Win 11. I was kind of happy and didn't try too hard.
I too am satisfied with the results Word gives me, but I'm working with someone else on this one and they're the one being concerned about this spacing issue. I've suggested running the MS through Kindle Create to see if that helps. As you say, we're already at a point where the time and energy spent isn't worth the marginal improvement.
It's getting to the point where if they want to spend money on Vellum — or someone who uses Vellum — that's their call.

Thanks for all the help, everyone. I've learned.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on February 22, 2024, 04:16:13 AM »
And if I recall correctly, Amazon isn't currently accepting any AI generated output for audio except its own--or am I wrong about that?
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by R. C. on February 21, 2024, 10:34:21 PM »
I presume from the question you are using full justification to "Evenly distribute your text evenly between the margins."  Also, I suspect you are using a monospaced typeface (font), which will exacerbate the problem.

The short answer is it is almost impossible to get MS Word to evenly space words in full justification. I did find an article here that claims to allow you to alter spacing for words within a line. Essentially, the "solution" recommends changing the spacing for specific words in a line.
 
Sadly, when this happens to me, I rewrite the sentences until they achieve my preferred aesthetic.

R.C.

It's worth asking ... the font is Trebuchet. Not my favourite choice, I prefer Times New Roman or Georgia. Is Trebuchet a problematic font?

I put several fonts to the test - Here

After confirming with 'Zon that is available for use, I prefer Bookerly for almost all books. You'll notice in the PDF, the differences are subtle but there are differences. It comes down to how much time you want to spend to achieve a marginal improvement.

On the topic of alternative tools, I have experimented a couple of times with InDesign. I found it not intuitive, cumbersome to use, and overly complex for simple actions. Example, there is no “Import” you must use a keying sequence to “Place” text into a document. But, the formatting is either lost or misaligned. I use MS Word, save as a PDF for loading into the distributors, and the paperbacks look just fine.


R.C.
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