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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by The Bass Bagwhan on February 21, 2024, 06:45:55 PM »
I presume from the question you are using full justification to "Evenly distribute your text evenly between the margins."  Also, I suspect you are using a monospaced typeface (font), which will exacerbate the problem.

The short answer is it is almost impossible to get MS Word to evenly space words in full justification. I did find an article here that claims to allow you to alter spacing for words within a line. Essentially, the "solution" recommends changing the spacing for specific words in a line.
 
Sadly, when this happens to me, I rewrite the sentences until they achieve my preferred aesthetic.

R.C.

It's worth asking ... the font is Trebuchet. Not my favourite choice, I prefer Times New Roman or Georgia. Is Trebuchet a problematic font?
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by alhawke on February 21, 2024, 04:58:22 AM »
Using AI with your voice is an interesting angle. I could see this saving a lot of time for those who do that with their audios. It could save a huge amount of time, potentially. But you'd still probably have to indicate that it was AI created.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by Lynn on February 21, 2024, 03:16:59 AM »
If you use Word for layout (and I've done it and got a decent paperback out of it), I do suggest you print to PDF or save as PDF and upload that. Don't upload your Word doc. The layout could turn out differently, as Bill says, and that is just another headache you don't need after all the work of making the print edition. :) Honestly, I don't even know if anyone still accepts Word doc uploads for print books?

Scribus works well (it's an open source alternative to InDesign), but it has a steep learning curve and I still don't use it even though I finally figured it out some odd years ago.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on February 21, 2024, 03:06:33 AM »
There is another potential wrinkle. The way Word displays documents is partly a function of what your default printer driver currently is, as well as a couple of other print-related issues.
https://word.tips.net/T000213_Stable_Layout_on_Different_Printers.
I've had this very issue with one of my editors. When I conferred with him on the manuscript, I discovered the document paginated differently for him than it did for me, apparently because we had different printer drivers.

What this means is that what you see on the screen is not necessarily what your output will be like. This is irrelevant to ebook format but might be an issue for print format. After kerning, render to PDF and see if everything came out as intended. If not, you might be able to solve the problem by selecting the PDF printer as your default while doing the kerning.

Given how long manual rekerning can take (depending on how many lines look as if they need fixing), it might be wise to experiment a little in Amazon Create and/or D2D to see if either kerns automatically to your satisfaction. Both are free. I haven't used either and can't find a specific statement related to kerning about either, but it seems as if it would be worth a try. I know Vellum kerns like a champ, but it is true it costs money and only has a Mac. (I maintain a cheap Macbook just to use it, but that isn't going to be sensible for everyone's budget.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by Post-Crisis D on February 21, 2024, 02:55:30 AM »
Just don't confuse kerning and tracking.

Kerning adjusts the spacing between two specific characters.

Tracking adjusts the spacing between multiple characters in a line or paragraph or specific selected text.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by R. C. on February 21, 2024, 12:13:14 AM »
A note on formatting. Use Lynn's advice at the very end of your editing process. Any subsequent fixes prior to this line will shift this text around and create a new problem.

 :goodpost:

Exactly right, emphasis added -- This is why it is difficult to achieve an homogenized character spacing in Word.

R.C.
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Much depends on how much editing I have to do, and in any case, I'm not scheduled to get the corrections from my editor until March 20. Sigh!
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by PJ Post on February 20, 2024, 11:19:14 PM »
A note on formatting. Use Lynn's advice at the very end of your editing process. Any subsequent fixes prior to this line will shift this text around and create a new problem.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by PJ Post on February 20, 2024, 11:15:24 PM »
That might be a timesaver, though AI still can't do me as well as I can do me, so it would depend on how much correcting I had to do.

Also, I'd need to make sure that my training AI on my voice didn't give anyone else access to my voice.

There's some weirdness there for sure, but the upside might be worth it. I'm still exploring my options.

But every time I think I've sorted it out, the tech evolves or a new company shows up or something changes the game.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by The Bass Bagwhan on February 20, 2024, 09:58:20 PM »
In Word, if you want to adjust letter spacing, go into the Font settings for some selected text (such as the line that is giving you problems), and choose Character Spacing under Advanced. Then select Expanded or Condensed and input as small a number as you can to get the results you want. If you expand, it will fill the empty space better, and if you contract, it might allow another word to flow onto the line and make it look better.

To the naked eye in print, small adjustments are hardly noticeable, yet they can significantly improve the look of justified text. If you make large adjustments, it can look weird, so it's best to be conservative. You can adjust in 0.1 pt increments, the last time I checked.

Thanks Lynn, you must be a Word "power user"!  Cheers for this.
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