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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by LilyBLily on November 01, 2025, 06:43:13 AM »
If I'm about to "lose" some of the value of my stock market investments I'd sure like to "win" a substantial payout from the Anthropic lawsuit. 

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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by LilyBLily on November 01, 2025, 05:44:28 AM »
I haven't received that type, but I've already gotten some very complimentary communications supposedly from book clubs. The AI writing is smooth. I wish real critics would write such nice things about my books.
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by alhawke on November 01, 2025, 04:26:37 AM »
Spammers have gotten completely out of hand. I think it's because you can probably program the machine to send out a few thousand emails based on writers with machine research and machine image learning. Not only is it a waste of time, it's flooding my emails. I need to find an AI program to weed them out.
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on November 01, 2025, 03:36:42 AM »
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But I think the planners at the top have a long-term vision and know where we're headed. I'm an AI optimist. The world is going to sh*t, and we need something to hang our hat on. Too many people around the world live in poverty and much much worse. It's unacceptable. And the Status Quo has zero interest in changing anything. AI has the potential to force meaningful change through innovation.

We agree that there are a lot of problems. But the sticking point is still what it was the last time we touched on the same topic--how do we get from a for-profit model to an altruistic one? If there's too much money on the table to stop AI, isn't there too much money on the table to allow for the creation of utopia?

The medical examples you cite do indeed show a lot of promise, and it doesn't appear that, in general, they put that many people out of work. But even as these medical advances occur, corporate American is gearing up for massive layoffs. Since health insurance is still largely tied to employment, at least in the US, Timothy is right to point out that all those advances won't even affect a lot of people because they have little or no access to healthcare, and the population in that condition will increase, probably substantially.

We could restrict AI to things like medical data analysis where it can do better than humans. But we're not going to do that because there's a lot of money in enabling efficiencies that allow large corporations to cut jobs. And no one is stepping up to fund universal healthcare and/or universal basic income--let alone universal high income. So income inequality will become even worse, poverty will become even worse, and at some point, there won't be enough consumers to sustain a capitalist economy. If the decision-making is based on money on the table, as you suggest, then what incentive is there to take some of that money off the table to fund a more utopian vision.

In California and other places, we seen how large developers address affordable housing. They push through large structures, using affordable housing as a pretext. But the bottom story is usually retail--sometimes upscale retail. In the floors above, you may have ten affordable units for every hundred regular-priced or even luxury units. These large structures create problems with everything from traffic to air circulation--but they don't solve the underlying problem of affordable housing. Their whole purpose is to maximize developer profits with the tiniest nod to affordable housing.

That's how I see AI. Developers are motivated by profit. They may incidentally do some good along the way, but I doubt it will outweigh the harm.

To Lorri's point, yes, AI is more substantive than some of the .com startups were. But its stock is still valued far higher than it would be if the basis were what AI can reasonably do now. It's valued on what people think AI may be able to do at some future point. And when the valuation so far exceeds the gross domestic product, that leads to crashes.  In the .com bubble, valuation exceeded GDP by less than 50%. Now, valuation exceeds GDP by more than 100%. That suggests an even bigger crash than the .com one. Some may survive or even prosper in their wake, but that isn't guaranteed. 
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on October 31, 2025, 11:58:33 PM »
It's also worth reading the book for the same reason.
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by Jeff Tanyard on October 31, 2025, 03:37:43 PM »
I've seen the movie.  It was okay.  Good, not great.  I don't care much for Spielberg's sense of humor, so I tend to roll my eyes at the gags in his movies.

The best part for me was the nostalgia aspect.  I loved the Terminator 2 "thumbs up" reference and the charm of making from Excalibur.

Dan, you should see it, if for no other reason than the 1980s nostalgia aspect of it (which is frankly epic).
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by Post-Doctorate D on October 31, 2025, 02:39:46 PM »
Since I've never heard of Ernest Cline until now, I would have just assumed it was spam anyway.

I have honeypot eMail addresses too.  But messages sent to them get rejected at the server level so I never see them.

You didn't see the movie?  :eek:

Even if you didn't recognize the name, the movie is a dead give away.

Heard of the movie.  Haven't seen it.

If such an eMail had reached me, I might not have seen the image as I don't have HTML mail on by default.
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by TimothyEllis on October 31, 2025, 02:19:31 PM »
Since I've never heard of Ernest Cline until now, I would have just assumed it was spam anyway.

I have honeypot eMail addresses too.  But messages sent to them get rejected at the server level so I never see them.

You didn't see the movie?  :eek:

Even if you didn't recognize the name, the movie is a dead give away.
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by Post-Doctorate D on October 31, 2025, 02:12:55 PM »
Since I've never heard of Ernest Cline until now, I would have just assumed it was spam anyway.

I have honeypot eMail addresses too.  But messages sent to them get rejected at the server level so I never see them.
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Quill and Feather Pub [Public] / Re: The scammers are getting bold....
« Last post by Jeff Tanyard on October 31, 2025, 01:17:00 PM »
The email address was Gmail, and from ErnestAuthorCline.


Perhaps it's Cline doing his Austin Powers impression.

"No, babe... 'Author' is my middle name."

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