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Sadly, my new release isn't going to be ready. Otherwise, I'd join for sure.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on February 19, 2024, 11:53:13 PM »
I haven't tried Amazon's and D2D's formatting, but I know with Vellum, it converts the material so that the spacing is even without having to do all kinds of acrobatics to get there.

Also, I just checked. I have Word set for justified when I'm composing, and if a line is very short, Word doesn't try to spread it out. Are you perhaps using an old version? I think 2021 is the last standalone version. Office 365 doesn't display a version number.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on February 19, 2024, 11:43:17 PM »
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Another thing to consider is the technology. I suspect any AI created audiobook in 2024 is going to be much poorer in quality than 2030. If not 2025. The technology is definitely not at its zenith yet. So if you're going the AI route, do you wait?

Precisely because the technology will improve, I'd be inclined to wait, at least for a while.

For some time, authors have been narrating individual chapters and posting them on YouTube. I don't know about now, but at one time, people did experience some success with that. However, real fans might actually prefer hearing the author's voice rather than an AI voice. Back in the day, I had requests for audiobooks in my own voice. That does seem like a way of establishing a more personal connection. Of course, it takes some investment in equipment and environment to meet audiobook standards, as well as a lot of time narrating, but if you're just doing a chapter as a sample or teaser, the time commitment wouldn't be as great, and you wouldn't have to meet an audiobook's exacting standards.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by PJ Post on February 19, 2024, 11:28:55 PM »
The free ones should work, but yeah, it's typically a character-based pay scale. The Elevenlabs plan that really works for writers is $99 a month. Of course, the other thing to keep in mind is how fast you can actually convert those three million words. It's not as simple as it sounds; for example, you have to listen to all of it to make sure there's no glitches. It's still a lot of time consuming work. The upside is that you're not dependent upon anyone else to get it done. We'll, except the app company, of course. Fortunately, we have options there.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by TimothyEllis on February 19, 2024, 11:20:05 PM »
I'm not interested in expensive online sites.

What I want is a pay once download I run on my computer.

I get it. The world has decided subscriptions are the way to go.

Actually, it's not the subscription, but how limited they are. I've something like 3 million words to do, and the last one I looked at had a limit of about 20k a month. Totally useless.

Paying more puts you into hiring a narrator territory anyway, so there is no benefit.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by PJ Post on February 19, 2024, 11:13:49 PM »
I'm not interested in expensive online sites.

What I want is a pay once download I run on my computer.

I get it. The world has decided subscriptions are the way to go. I'm not a fan either, but here we are.

If you go to YouTube and search Elevenlabs, you'll find some videos reviewing other alternatives, including free ones. They might not be as good, but they just have to be good enough, right?

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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by R. C. on February 19, 2024, 10:59:08 PM »
I presume from the question you are using full justification to "Evenly distribute your text evenly between the margins."  Also, I suspect you are using a monospaced typeface (font), which will exacerbate the problem.

The short answer is it is almost impossible to get MS Word to evenly space words in full justification. I did find an article here that claims to allow you to alter spacing for words within a line. Essentially, the "solution" recommends changing the spacing for specific words in a line.
 
Sadly, when this happens to me, I rewrite the sentences until they achieve my preferred aesthetic.

R.C.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Formatting paragraphs question
« Last post by The Bass Bagwhan on February 19, 2024, 07:43:41 PM »
Hi everyone, when you justify a paragraph sometimes you get these odd lines that have large spaces between the words, kind of stretched out, because of the words in that particular line.
Someone has pointed out that professionally formatted books usually don't have this problem.
Is there a fine-tuning trick in formatting the paragraph to achieve this? I'm using the latest Word.

Thanks!
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Audible delays and Amazon's audiobook virtual voice
« Last post by TimothyEllis on February 19, 2024, 01:18:11 PM »
Looks like Australia isn't getting the Audio beta like we didn't get Vella.

You can use AI to narrate and publish a chapter at a time or even a scene at a time.

It's a bit expensive, but pretty amazing.

I'm not interested in expensive online sites.

What I want is a pay once download I run on my computer.

I've got 3 million words to audio, and they means needs to be cheap.

I thought the Amazon thing might be the answer, but no offer to use it yet, even though I would.
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Ugh :doh: :doh: Thanks!!! I'll fix.
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