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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 13, 2024, 05:06:38 AM »
Thanks a lot, Timothy. I was just gathering information from all over. Yeah, it was a KDP Help guy. Super nice. Maybe I heard him wrong or melded what I'd heard from somewhere else with him though. I came across this helpful Kindlepreneur video that is pretty current https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vinXgGNxEzk and I'll do some tweaking of the keywords but what I had (sans the p word) is at least in the right ballpark. And yeah, Kindledprenuer for the most part is for filling the boxes, most of them anyway. Appreciate the help.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on September 12, 2024, 12:26:10 PM »
Quote from: Gregg Bell on September 12, 2024, 08:17:51 AM
Despite what the KDP rep said?

Is this a real rep, or just KDP Help?

No-one in KDP Help, even when you get a real person, has any real clue about anything.

I've never heard of 3 words per field before, or been dinged about it. It's either very very new (as in the last 2 weeks), or the person who's telling you that is clueless.

Other than the p word you shouldn't be using, that image looked good to me.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by alhawke on September 12, 2024, 09:19:24 AM »
I was referring to the word "pornography". I wouldn't use that word in your keyword choices.

Multiple words are a good idea. A few years ago, KDP Publisher Rocket advised a string of multiple words per line.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 12, 2024, 08:17:51 AM »
Quote from: alhawke on September 12, 2024, 05:51:55 AM
I'd get rid of "pornography" in "police infidelity pornography mob mafia"
Algos can easily dungeon your book into erotica for keywords that also fit erotica (it's happened to me before and I had to change keywords)

Thanks A.L. So you're saying the way I did it (save the "pornography") was right? Despite what the KDP rep said?

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that there is a three word maximum per keyword slot, and that the 7 new keywords I've chosen would work out to all kinds of combinations like legal thriller, courtroom drama, legal suspense, legal novel, legal mysteries etc. And that filling up each search box tended to confuse things in terms of the search.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by alhawke on September 12, 2024, 05:51:55 AM »
I'd get rid of "pornography" in "police infidelity pornography mob mafia"
Algos can easily dungeon your book into erotica for keywords that also fit erotica (it's happened to me before and I had to change keywords)
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 12, 2024, 04:25:45 AM »
Thanks, Timothy, but I'm confused. This is what I have now for keywords for The Perfect Lawyer.



Just yesterday, I was told by a KDP rep that there is a three word maximum per keyword slot, and that the 7 new keywords I've chosen would work out to all kinds of combinations like legal thriller, courtroom drama, legal suspense, legal novel, legal mysteries etc. And that filling up each search box tended to confuse things in terms of the search.

Which I thought would be more effective than what I had.

I definitely would add "murder" now that you mention it, but why would "novel" be redundant? People search for "legal novels."


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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on September 11, 2024, 12:01:56 PM »
You get to fill those 7 fields with up to 50 characters each.

So triple the number of words at least.

What was the nature of the crime? What sort of lawyers involved?

Think of every word that someone might search on to find your book, and cram it in somewhere.

Novels is redundant. Urban would be a category. murder trial should be there.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Keyword feedback for a legal thriller?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 11, 2024, 11:54:25 AM »
The book is called The Perfect Lawyer.  It's a courtroom drama of a murder trial. The below is what I was thinking of using, and here's the blurb if that helps. Thanks.

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Illinois Attorney Ike Thompson just wants to live out the rest of his days in peace.

Years ago, he was known as “the perfect lawyer” for his high-profile, pressure-packed criminal defense work in downtown Chicago. But after losing a crucial case to up-and-coming prosecutor Ursula “the merciless” Rush, his confidence was shattered, and ever since, he’s resigned himself to doing small-time real estate deals in the sleepy suburbs. He’ll never practice criminal law again. He’s lost his edge. Worse yet, he’s lost his courage.
When he’s asked to defend a sensational murder case that’s inflaming the nation, there’s no way he’s accepting.

But then he learns that the defendant, Mia Hendrickson, a young mother accused of setting the fire that killed her three small children, has been tried in the media and found guilty. That she’s been brutally beaten in jail. And that her public defender is incompetent.

Listening to his heart rather than his better judgment, Ike takes Mia’s case—only to find that his opposing counsel is none other than Ursula Rush. The prosecutor has a slam dunk case. The jury seems to be convinced that Mia is guilty. Ike’s old doubts surface and threaten to overwhelm him. Can he face down his fears—and save Mia’s life?


1. legal
2. courtroom
3. thrillers
4. dramas
5. suspense
6. mysteries
7. novels
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Amazon AMS ads take a while to establish themselves, right?
« Last post by Gregg Bell on September 08, 2024, 02:12:10 PM »
Quote from: TimothyEllis on September 07, 2024, 11:55:14 PM
Quote from: Gregg Bell on September 07, 2024, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: The Bass Bagwhan on September 02, 2024, 12:44:28 PM
I've researched but found nothing recent ... AMS ads do take a while before you can properly assess whether they're working, correct? I don't mean Amazon approval, I mean looking at the results and deciding if you got it right.

Cheers for any help.

I've heard think long term. And don't think expense. Think investment.



The word you're looking for is gambling.  :icon_mrgreen:

Ha ha. Pretty much. The odds are definitely stacked in favor of the house.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Amazon AMS ads take a while to establish themselves, right?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on September 07, 2024, 11:55:14 PM »
Quote from: Gregg Bell on September 07, 2024, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: The Bass Bagwhan on September 02, 2024, 12:44:28 PM
I've researched but found nothing recent ... AMS ads do take a while before you can properly assess whether they're working, correct? I don't mean Amazon approval, I mean looking at the results and deciding if you got it right.

Cheers for any help.

I've heard think long term. And don't think expense. Think investment.

The word you're looking for is gambling.  :icon_mrgreen:
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