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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by Cabbages and kings on July 12, 2024, 11:24:18 PM »
Like many social interests that fade over time, while overall demand may decrease, the passion increases for those left in the market, which is why Kickstarters should continue to work. Vinyl records are a good example. Most people don't care, but the ones that do are super excited about them. This is also why I think the 1,000 True Fans approach is the way to go.


Is there anything extra you would do in the "1,000 True Fans" approach that you normally wouldn't do?
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by PJ Post on July 12, 2024, 09:46:37 PM »
Like many social interests that fade over time, while overall demand may decrease, the passion increases for those left in the market, which is why Kickstarters should continue to work. Vinyl records are a good example. Most people don't care, but the ones that do are super excited about them. This is also why I think the 1,000 True Fans approach is the way to go.
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Writer 101 [Public] / Re: Where do I go from here?
« Last post by tha_lioness on July 12, 2024, 07:43:52 PM »
But do a print edition, order yourself a copy, and get someone to take a photo of you proudly holding your baby. It's a great moment.

omg I do love that bit, yeah I can totally relate.
Still in limbo, but I'm getting plans and ideas slotted in a real way now.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by Lorri Moulton on July 12, 2024, 12:49:23 PM »
Thank you, A.L.  :dog1:

All this AI talk just muddies the waters.  It may not be the "gold rush days" anymore, but there are still people who like and buy books.

ETA: It's easy to blame AI, all the free ebooks, etc. but I think the market is shrinking due to a lot of factors...many economic.  Books may be less of an impulse buy and more of an investment, which might be why Kickstarter is doing well. 

I don't have those $38k campaigns (LOL), but I do sell a few books.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by alhawke on July 12, 2024, 12:42:51 PM »
Congratulations, Lorri! You got me interested in checking kickstarter out.

Am I missing something? I don't get why people are willing to shell out a lot of money to fund kickstarters, but then buying less books? Is it because few authors are doing funding and there's good visibility there? Or is it that true fans are willing to really go that extra mile?

Whatever the case, your Kickstarter page looks enticing so I can see why it funded.  :clap:
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Writer 101 [Public] / Re: Where do I go from here?
« Last post by alhawke on July 12, 2024, 12:34:44 PM »
Also, don't forget that Amazon shows a strikethrough comparing your paperback price with your ebook.

I recall reading books talking about this perk when I started out. If you have the funds, adding a paperback version is worth it.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by Lorri Moulton on July 12, 2024, 11:57:23 AM »
There are still people buying books!!  Do not give up hope.  I just started a Kickstarter campaign (with a fairly low funding amount) and funded in 13 minutes. 
AI will not win today!  :smilie_zauber:
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Writer 101 [Public] / Re: Where do I go from here?
« Last post by LilyBLily on July 12, 2024, 11:31:32 AM »
I would disagree with one aspect of that advice. It's such a thrill to hold one's published book in one's hand that it is worth the extra money and aggravation (not that it's a lot) to produce a trade paperback along with the ebook.

Yes, concentrate on ways to help the ebook sell. Expect ebook sales will be the main source of revenue. But do a print edition, order yourself a copy, and get someone to take a photo of you proudly holding your baby. It's a great moment.

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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by She-la-te-da on July 12, 2024, 09:37:59 AM »
Okay, I wasn't going to say anything, but for the love of God, LEVERAGE AI? Get out in front of it? Are you serious? There's not going to be any leveraging AI by the people like us. We are the ones who are going to be out of work, and hoping that freaking Universal Income is voted in soon enough that we can get in line for it, and like it.

My gods, the things I see people saying who should know better.
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Writer 101 [Public] / Re: Where do I go from here?
« Last post by She-la-te-da on July 12, 2024, 09:04:32 AM »
My advice to noobs with fiction books is to focus on ebooks first. Don't worry about print, or audio, until you are selling ebooks. Use that money to finance print. Once you can sell print, think about audio.

To be honest, most people won't sell enough to make doing all versions, especially hardbacks, economically viable. Especially not a first book, and the only book. You still have to learn how to do ads, and that's going to mess with your brain to begin with.
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