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« Last post by PJ Post on November 20, 2023, 06:39:34 AM »I remember the anecdotes, but not specific data, including the prompts that lead to the infringing text. AI doesn't "know" the text to be copied (it doesn't store anything), it only knows the likelihood of the next word in the series or the next pixel. The Getty logo in AI images only proved that Getty owns a lot of soccer images1. These artifact abstractions show up in a lot of AI images. One weird one was rulers showing up next to moles. This is because most images of moles are medical, and the datasets often show a ruler to document the change in size. That's a learned association.
1 It also proved AI trained on lots of Getty images, which no one is denying. Instead, these AI companies are claiming Fair Use. The courts, as of now, seem to be going in this direction. We'll have to wait and see how big the copyright obstacle is going to be.
It doesn't mean they're not not wrong. They have a history of overreacting to protect their own self-interest.
A much smaller market to be sure, but the individual Creative doesn't necessarily have to worry about the peculiarities and vagaries of the market if they're non-fungible.
At yet, all of these products still represent billion dollar industries.
Also, most of these social improvements, be they labels or improved automotive technology, all save lives, or at least promise to. It's good for marketing. However, as an example, the California's Prop 65 cancer warning is largely ignored, mainly I think, because it is so ludicrously inclusive as to be meaningless. It's essentially saying that one's mere existence can lead to cancer.
But the most important difference here is that using AI won't kill you.
Don't confuse social media spin control with actual concern. I don't think this is what you meant, but no, I don't think the average person on the street has any idea of what's coming.
1 It also proved AI trained on lots of Getty images, which no one is denying. Instead, these AI companies are claiming Fair Use. The courts, as of now, seem to be going in this direction. We'll have to wait and see how big the copyright obstacle is going to be.
As far as SWFA is concerned, they might well not like indies, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about AI.
It doesn't mean they're not not wrong. They have a history of overreacting to protect their own self-interest.
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Maybe we'll always have a market, but it seems as if we'll have a much smaller one, one that will support far fewer of us. And yes, there are still cobblers, but how many?
A much smaller market to be sure, but the individual Creative doesn't necessarily have to worry about the peculiarities and vagaries of the market if they're non-fungible.
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Also, would companies really resist GMO labeling so hard if nobody really cared? Would cigarette companies have resisted health warnings so hard if nobody really cared? People care. They just don't think about it that often unless it's forced to their attention--with labeling, for example. A better test of your thesis would be situations in which products were clearly labeled, and it made no difference. And before you say cigarettes, keep in mind that there's addiction involved there.
At yet, all of these products still represent billion dollar industries.
Also, most of these social improvements, be they labels or improved automotive technology, all save lives, or at least promise to. It's good for marketing. However, as an example, the California's Prop 65 cancer warning is largely ignored, mainly I think, because it is so ludicrously inclusive as to be meaningless. It's essentially saying that one's mere existence can lead to cancer.
But the most important difference here is that using AI won't kill you.
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One might question how much the average person on the street really knows. Companies aren't exactly happy when some labor scandal breaks out and usually at least pretend to take steps. Would they do that if in fact no one really cared?
Don't confuse social media spin control with actual concern. I don't think this is what you meant, but no, I don't think the average person on the street has any idea of what's coming.
