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Vidya

Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« on: August 23, 2020, 07:01:11 PM »

My victim is a drug dealer. I need suspects apart from his wife. Possibilities:

1. could he have a partner in drug dealing? Or do drug dealers work for themselves? Could he have a partner who accuses him of cheating him and giving him a lesser share of the profits?

2. how about if he gave free drugs for a time to someone and that person is now hooked but doesn't have money for more drugs? And so the client barges into his home. Though the dealer never gave anyone his home address, the client finds out where he lives, barges in, and demands more free drugs. A crazed client could be s suspect; he could be bitter the dealer got him hooked.

3. a parent of a child who he got hooked could want to kill him but would the parent not be more likely to just report him to the police? Why go through the mess of murder? Except in whodunits, people kill for the flimsiest of reasons.

Who else might want him dead? Who else could he have harmed?

Why on earth did I never try out at least pot so I’d have some clue as to how these things work. There are grave drawbacks to having lived a clean life. It is not at all helpful for fiction.
 

notthatamanda

Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2020, 10:48:23 PM »
All your theories are plausible and drug dealers actually do give free samples to try to get people hooked.

The one you left out is another dealer/gang/cartel because they want his territory or want to send a message or because sometimes a gang initiation requires murdering someone in a rival gang.

You could also make the killer some sort of avenging psycho, who kills people they think deserve it, or a murder for fun guy who can't resist the urges, but tries to pick people that are scumbags.

The last one is drugs can be laced with stuff that can kill you (fentanyl for example) so if he was trying his own product he could have just ODed by accident.
 
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Jeff Tanyard

Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 09:41:30 AM »

My victim is a drug dealer. I need suspects apart from his wife. Possibilities:

1. could he have a partner in drug dealing? Or do drug dealers work for themselves?


Unless they're growing their own pot or cooking their own meth, drug dealers have to get their supply from somewhere.  I'd go with Mexican cartels here.


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Could he have a partner who accuses him of cheating him and giving him a lesser share of the profits?


Completely plausible, and a good idea if you want the killer to be someone close to the victim.  There doesn't even need to be any cheating involved.  It can be simple greed.  Maybe the partner figures he doesn't need the victim anymore and he just wants to take over the operation and keep all the profits for himself.


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2. how about if he gave free drugs for a time to someone and that person is now hooked but doesn't have money for more drugs? And so the client barges into his home. Though the dealer never gave anyone his home address, the client finds out where he lives, barges in, and demands more free drugs. A crazed client could be s suspect; he could be bitter the dealer got him hooked.


Like notthatamanda said, dealers give out free samples all the time in order to hook new customers.  (Some of us do the same thing with ebooks.   :icon_mrgreen:)  The new customer is more likely to rob some unsuspecting person, though.  Criminals tend to go for the easy marks.  For example, it's a lot safer to rob an old widow than a drug dealer.

Modern-day meth heads are notorious for being copper thieves.  They break into abandoned buildings or buildings under construction and steal the copper pipes and the copper from the appliances and air conditioning units and whatnot.  They then sell the copper at scrapyards for the money with which they fuel their drug habits.  It's a much less risky way of stealing than actually confronting people and risking personal injury or being identified.

So if I was writing this story, I wouldn't have the customer rob the dealer.  There are a lot of less-risky ways to get the money.


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3. a parent of a child who he got hooked could want to kill him but would the parent not be more likely to just report him to the police? Why go through the mess of murder? Except in whodunits, people kill for the flimsiest of reasons.


Sometimes calling the cops is pointless.  There have been times and places in American history where the system does "catch and release" of suspects.  Arrested, booked, released on little or no bond, charges later dropped or reduced to nearly nothing.  Sometimes even the arrest doesn't happen; cops just "smile and wave" when they see crimes being committed.  Crooks commit felony after felony after felony, but nothing ever happens to them.  When that goes on long enough, ordinary folks learn not to bother with calling the cops.  They learn that if they don't want to live in a dystopian wasteland, then they have to face the bad guys themselves.  When the movie Death Wish came out in the 1970s, it resonated with people for a good reason.

Sometimes the matter is simply too traumatic and personal to leave to an unreliable--and often way too lenient--judicial system to resolve.  Here's a real-life vigilante:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Plauch%C3%A9

And here's the news report showing the actual killing.  (Spoiler tags due to graphic nature)


Spoiler: ShowHide



If the DA had been dumb enough to take Gary to trial, then those jurors would have acquitted him, guaranteed.

Interesting fact: Jody Plauché, the boy who was abused, is all grown up now and has a book available on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948903210/


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Who else might want him dead? Who else could he have harmed?


Could be a neighbor who is sick of the bad elements in his neighborhood.


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Why on earth did I never try out at least pot so I’d have some clue as to how these things work. There are grave drawbacks to having lived a clean life. It is not at all helpful for fiction.


Well, I've never left the planet, but a lot of my fiction takes place in space or on other planets, so hopefully personal experience of a subject isn't a prerequisite for writing about it.  ;)

Anyway, there you go.  Hope that helps.  :)
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Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2020, 12:56:32 PM »
Relative of someone who OD'd wanting vengeance.

Especially if the OD was almost clean, and the drug dealer went the extra mile to get them hooked again.
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Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2020, 11:08:52 PM »
Who else might want him dead?
Depends on where the dealer is in the chain. If he stands high in the chain, a competitor outside or inside his organization. If he stands low in the chain, a user who is out of money.

IME as an attorney, methheads cooked for themselves and friends. Not a lot of meth dealing that I saw. YMMV.

So I think he is dealing cocaine or opium. Don't know anything about the opium trade. The cocaine trade is organized and hard to get into. I do know of one case in which a dealer was shot dead by his own lawyer because he refused coke to his lawyer the night before trial. I doubt that will work for you.

What if the connection to drug dealing is tangential? How about if he is a lieutenant in an organization snitching on other organizations and his own to the DEA? Or he is supplying coke to a foreign spy and passing intel to the CIA for protection? So the foreign gov't sends a contract killer to take him out and make it look like a drug deal gone bad.  What do you think?
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Jeff Tanyard

Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2020, 05:48:55 AM »
What if the connection to drug dealing is tangential?


Funny you should ask this.  I had the same thought.  I was thinking the drug angle could be the big red herring of the story, and then the plot twist is that it's actually all about a love triangle or something.
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Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2020, 11:03:13 PM »
I would go for a wife who thinks she is married to a super clever stock broker or the like, then she discovers the truth about where his money comes from.
 
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Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2020, 11:25:05 PM »
He's become such a street PITA that the cops set him up and kill him.

Or he's stopped paying them their take like the dirty cops Serpico uncovered.

     
 
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cdk

Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2021, 04:25:19 AM »
Drug related motives:

1.   Customer – in a dispute over quality or quantity – the “Mexican ounce” of black tar heroin is 25 grams, not the normal 28 grams, and it has been the source of many disputes by buyers who are unaware of the difference and believe they’re being ripped off.
2.   Customer – robbing the dealer in an ambush while disguised.
3.   Rival dealer eliminating the competition.
4.   Parent/spouse/sibling avenging the OD death of a loved one.
5.   Someone up and coming hoping to replace the dealer.
6.   Rival dealer/doctor – because the victim is competing with the dr.’s prescription pill mill.  (Depending on the era, heroin is cheaper than an opioid prescription.)
7.   Someone the victim snitched on in order to avoid prosecution for a drug related arrest.
8.   Gang – because the dealer refused to pay the gang tax for selling in gang territory.
9.   Money dispute with anyone working for the dealer.

The most common situation I see is a group of the dealer’s friends (who are also customers) sitting around figuring out what to do for the night when someone gets the idea to go to the dealer’s house and rob the dealer of their stash and cash.  Usually the closest friend calls to make sure the dealer's home, which causes the dealer to let down his/her guard thinking it's just the one friend coming by to buy drugs.  But at the end of the night there's always a fatality, and if it's not the dealer, it's anyone who happened to be visiting or living at the residence, or often times one of the friends because drug dealers are typically armed and of course the friends are usually high while trying to pull off this caper.
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Re: Who’d want to kill a drug dealer?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2022, 11:52:49 PM »
All your theories are plausible and drug dealers actually do give free samples to try to get people hooked.

The one you left out is another dealer/gang/cartel because they want his territory or want to send a message or because sometimes a gang initiation requires murdering someone in a rival gang.

You could also make the killer some sort of avenging psycho, who kills people they think deserve it, or a murder for fun guy who can't resist the urges, but tries to pick people that are scumbags.

The last one is drugs can be laced with stuff that can kill you (fentanyl for example) so if he was trying his own product he could have just ODed by accident.

^^^I agree.