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Writer's Workshop [Public] / Re: I can see this happening
« Last post by Matthew on Today at 01:03:38 AM »
I mean, the government is scary. Here in the US we have the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which can essentially be abused to spy on everyone without a warrant. It seems the wording is so vague that if you so much as send an email to or browse a website outside of the country, it may be grounds for being monitored.

I wonder when they have an actual person take a look at some flagged communications. I've definitely asked someone online how I should "kill a kid" but made sure to include "in my book."

To the FBI agent scrolling through my history, you deserve it.
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Writer's Workshop [Public] / I can see this happening
« Last post by Jan Hurst-Nicholson on Today at 12:31:57 AM »
I did read somewhere about a writer being investigated re a security breach   :icon_mrgreen:
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Writer's Workshop [Public] / Re: Phone Dialog
« Last post by The Bass Bagwhan on April 11, 2024, 09:49:28 AM »
I'm in the other camp. I always italicise with quotes ( as distinct from internal thought, which I italicise without quotes).
I think the italics are an important although subtle indicator or reminder that there is no face-to -face interaction no expressions or body language, which makes it different to normal dialogue.
But in the end, it's a stylistic choice. Do what you want, nothing is "wrong". I'll say it's a common convention to italicise electronic dialogue (phone, radio, intercom ... even telepathy in sci-fi.)

Is that a 3rd person thing?

Not necessarily, because in 1st Person you might have a fully formed thought such as, I think I'm going to kill him.

Compared to:

He kissed the back of her hand, and I think I'm going to kill him.

But as I said, it's not definitively laid out in CMOS or any other guide although some offer suggestions. It's a personal stylistic choice, more often than not influenced by what we read, and each to their own. As an editor I see lots of variations that are very confusing for the reader, and for me using italics often provides immediate, visual clarity of what's going on. You can write brilliant prose but modern writing can still benefit from visual prompts paragraph breaks are an obvious example.

But that's me. There is no right or wrong when it comes to style. Even CMOS is the Chicago Manual of Style and frequently sits on the fence regarding a lot of things.
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Writer's Workshop [Public] / Re: Phone Dialog
« Last post by Lynn on April 11, 2024, 07:02:11 AM »
Italics are used in subtitles to specify when someone not in the scene is talking. For books, they're usually used for flashbacks (short ones) and remembered dialogue so you know it isn't happening in real time in the story.

That's why I wouldn't recommend using italics in a book for dialogue that's happening in real time, even if the speaker is off the page. It could be confusing. All you need is a line mentioning it's a phone call and everyone gets it. :)
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Writer's Workshop [Public] / Re: Phone Dialog
« Last post by Vijaya on April 11, 2024, 05:14:19 AM »
I've never used italics, but I've seen a lot of Quora answers saying that's the way to do it.

As far as I'm concerned, it's just conversation. The fact it's over the phone, or text messages, or smoke signals doesn't make it any different to face to face conversation.

But plenty will disagree with me.


I've never used italics for a conversation that's spoken. Quotes work just fine. There's no confusion.

With email/text conversation, I use a different font or block it off with tabs. Same with a handwritten letter that would appear in a story. I've read some books with a box around it with time-stamps and to/from, but that seems superfluous.  
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Writer's Workshop [Public] / Re: Phone Dialog
« Last post by TimothyEllis on April 11, 2024, 01:01:29 AM »
I'm in the other camp. I always italicise with quotes ( as distinct from internal thought, which I italicise without quotes).
I think the italics are an important although subtle indicator or reminder that there is no face-to -face interaction no expressions or body language, which makes it different to normal dialogue.
But in the end, it's a stylistic choice. Do what you want, nothing is "wrong". I'll say it's a common convention to italicise electronic dialogue (phone, radio, intercom ... even telepathy in sci-fi.)

Is that a 3rd person thing?

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Writer's Workshop [Public] / Re: Phone Dialog
« Last post by The Bass Bagwhan on April 11, 2024, 12:47:05 AM »
I'm in the other camp. I always italicise with quotes ( as distinct from internal thought, which I italicise without quotes).
I think the italics are an important although subtle indicator or reminder that there is no face-to -face interaction no expressions or body language, which makes it different to normal dialogue.
But in the end, it's a stylistic choice. Do what you want, nothing is "wrong". I'll say it's a common convention to italicise electronic dialogue (phone, radio, intercom ... even telepathy in sci-fi.)
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I already had my stuff on PayHip and Gumroads. Now, I'm adding Lemon Squeezy to the list. I only have a few things listed there so far, but I'm working on it!
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Thank you, Bill! I spent all day yesterday on it, so that's very nice to read.  :dog1:
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I am going to blatantly promote the blog on my new store (don't look at my books/promotion is not for me). LOL  That is all.

https://payhip.com/LavenderCottageBookShop/blog/lavender-cottage-blog

ETA:  The blog feature is one reason I went back to Payhip.  I can duplicate the website blog so more readers see it.
If I hadn't already invested a lot of time in other approaches, a mere glance at your site would persuade me to use the same approach.

It is one of the most beautiful online stores I've seen. And there's a clear, well-branded vibe there. It makes your books all the more appealing.
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