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notthatamanda

Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« on: September 15, 2022, 08:24:33 PM »
In the lawsuit, California Attorney General Rob Bonta’s office said Seattle-based Amazon used contract provisions to effectively bar third-party sellers and wholesale suppliers from offering lower prices for products on non-Amazon sites, including on their own websites.

Source: https://apnews.com/article/technology-lawsuits-san-francisco-amazoncom-inc-a53b695cd5c8cf0e4352fb2f5de85cfc

Personally I'd like to be able to run Kobo promos without the hassle of Amazon price matching. I stick to the Kobo promos that don't change the price of the book and only have my compilations on Kobo to take advantage of their promos on those without the headaches.

 

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Re: Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2022, 12:45:53 PM »
The other retailers do this as well. Barnes and Noble, Apple, Kobo, Google Play, they all make you price the same price universally. Meaning you can't price low on one and have a higher price on the other. It's not just Amazon so even if this succeeds (which I doubt because Amazon seems to beat everything) you still have the issue of the other retailers. Some don't realize it but no, you can't price differently on any site. They all say your price has to be the same on all stores.
 

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Re: Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2022, 03:24:49 PM »
The other retailers do this as well. Barnes and Noble, Apple, Kobo, Google Play, they all make you price the same price universally. Meaning you can't price low on one and have a higher price on the other. It's not just Amazon so even if this succeeds (which I doubt because Amazon seems to beat everything) you still have the issue of the other retailers. Some don't realize it but no, you can't price differently on any site. They all say your price has to be the same on all stores.

Are you sure?

There are plenty of people saying they price higher on Google Play.

It also doesn't work that way for Paperbacks.
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Re: Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2022, 10:10:33 PM »
Just to clarify, the lawsuit isn't about eBooks. They aren't mentioned at all in the article.
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2022, 11:13:43 PM »
There are plenty of people saying they price higher on Google Play.

Is that recently or in the past?

I know that we used to have to price higher on googleplay because of how they discounted. Then they appeared to have stopped that practice.
 

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Re: Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2022, 11:18:06 PM »
There are plenty of people saying they price higher on Google Play.

Is that recently or in the past?

I know that we used to have to price higher on googleplay because of how they discounted. Then they appeared to have stopped that practice.

I've not heard any different since Google's policy changed.

Like no-one has been saying Google made them change their prices down, or price matched them.

If anyone has somewhere else, point it out to me.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2022, 12:55:00 AM »
There are plenty of people saying they price higher on Google Play.

Is that recently or in the past?

I know that we used to have to price higher on googleplay because of how they discounted. Then they appeared to have stopped that practice.

I've not heard any different since Google's policy changed.

Like no-one has been saying Google made them change their prices down, or price matched them.

If anyone has somewhere else, point it out to me.

A few months ago, I started to put my books on Google. I was reluctant at first because of the way Google priced their books and I didn't want to go through the hassle. In the end, I just priced them the same as Zon and D2D and the prices on Google stayed the same. I assumed they had dropped their ridiculous higher prices.
           
 
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Re: Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2022, 01:07:41 AM »
A few months ago, I started to put my books on Google. I was reluctant at first because of the way Google priced their books and I didn't want to go through the hassle. In the end, I just priced them the same as Zon and D2D and the prices on Google stayed the same. I assumed they had dropped their ridiculous higher prices.

That's not the way I understood it.

People priced higher there to overcome the hassle of Amazon price matching the discounted price. So the pricing was author done.

But people also say the higher prices still sell on Google Play, because it's a different market of readers.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2022, 02:18:41 AM »
A few months ago, I started to put my books on Google. I was reluctant at first because of the way Google priced their books and I didn't want to go through the hassle. In the end, I just priced them the same as Zon and D2D and the prices on Google stayed the same. I assumed they had dropped their ridiculous higher prices.

That's not the way I understood it.

People priced higher there to overcome the hassle of Amazon price matching the discounted price. So the pricing was author done.

But people also say the higher prices still sell on Google Play, because it's a different market of readers.

Yes that was once true, but my experience is they don't discount the price that I set. That indicates to me that Google has abandoned that practice.
           
 

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Re: Getting sued for anti-trust violations
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2022, 02:25:56 AM »
Yes that was once true, but my experience is they don't discount the price that I set. That indicates to me that Google has abandoned that practice.

What Google is doing is not the issue.

What are authors still doing?

I seriously doubt all those with higher prices went through them and lowered them, especially if they were selling at the higher prices.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2022, 03:05:21 AM »
Half of mine on Google Play are priced exactly the same as everywhere else, and half are not. No one has been bothering me about them.