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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on December 30, 2025, 12:40:04 AM »
Yeah, I wouldn't want that, either.

Another pet peeve, which sometimes comes up in text as well, is padding to make the material look like it has more substance than it really does. This often involves explaining the obvious for a long period of time before getting to the five minutes or so of actionable advice. I could see that if the intended audience is total newbs, but in that case, the presentation should be labeled that way.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on December 30, 2025, 12:14:21 AM »
I'd take--and I've given when I experimented with video--a little background if it's relevant to the subject. In other words, I want to know a person who is discussing technical matters has the expertise to understand them. But yeah, if that runs very long, I too would give up.

Most of the time I want the how to do it information, and as long as it works, I'm good without knowing who it was.

If it's not how to do, then yeah, I want to know their credentials, but I don't really care who they are to get them. A short list that I can pause and read if I want to, is all I need, not 10 minutes to half an hour of ego wank.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on December 30, 2025, 12:05:05 AM »
I'd take--and I've given when I experimented with video--a little background if it's relevant to the subject. In other words, I want to know a person who is discussing technical matters has the expertise to understand them. But yeah, if that runs very long, I too would give up.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on December 29, 2025, 10:51:26 PM »
I get frustrated with things that are only available in audio or video. Give me the transcript every time! (It's also faster to search text than audio if I need to find a specific thing.)

I just don't have the patience for them. So many people doing them are all about their own ego wank that they take forever to get to the only 30 seconds in the hour long ramble that is any use.

If someone starts out by blowing up who they are, I stop and find something else. I just don't care who they are. And if they make it about them out of the gate, then they have nothing to say anyway worth listening to.

For non-fiction, reading is far better.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on December 29, 2025, 10:10:51 PM »
I'm still an article kind of guy for nonfiction. That's partly because of the points that PDD just made. But it's also just in general because it's faster. If the purpose is getting information, I can read faster than I can listen. I can also skim to relevant parts if it's an article that touches on many subjects. I developed this pattern while I was teaching and needed to assimilate information quickly to make enough room for things like planning and essay grading. My situation is less stressful now, but since I also work more slowly and can't concentrate for as long periods, the need to process information quickly is still there. I get frustrated with things that are only available in audio or video. Give me the transcript every time! (It's also faster to search text than audio if I need to find a specific thing.)

For the same reason, I prefer text to audiobooks. I can see their utility for something like a long commute, or for long tasks that can be performed via habit and/or muscle memory. (One of my friends listens to audiobooks while cooking. She needs free hands but not a free mind for it.)

Am I a regular podcast listener? No, not at all.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Post-Doctorate D on December 29, 2025, 11:38:16 AM »
So many podcasts just...wander?  I'm sure there are some great ones out there, but I sat through an hour of "meh" to get to the titled subject, which was underwhelmingly presented.  I could have skimmed and seen that in five minutes. Just saying.  :angel:

On YouTube, at least, you can skip ahead and adjust the playback speed.  I don't know if algorithms favor longer podcasts or what, but some talk so slow that you can play them at 2x the speed and they sound like someone speaking normally.  I'd say I usually do about 1.5x but sometimes 1.25x is just enough.  But, then, like I said, some need 2x.  Of course, some are fine at 1x too.

But, yeah, some have a lot of pointless blather.  The other day, I had to skip the first five minutes or so of one before they finally got to the point, and the whole thing was only 12-15 minutes long.

Many years ago, there was a site with news on a particular topic--it may have been scifi or maybe it was political news--been so long I don't remember--but I do remember where the first third or so, sometimes even half or more, of the article was basically the writer explaining how they came upon the information and patting themselves on the back for having obtained it and whatnot and it was like, get to the point already.  If you're a journalist, getting the story is your job.  I don't need to read all the details of how you got the information, nor do I need to know what you were wearing or what you had for lunch or who you had to butter up for information and how you did it.  Just get to the point!

So, any podcast that reminds me of that, where the opening is self-congratulatory blather or whatever, I'm out.  Maybe there's an audience for that but I'm not it.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Lorri Moulton on December 29, 2025, 10:07:22 AM »
I don't care for most podcasts because I want to skim, which is easier with a book (at least for me).

So many podcasts just...wander?  I'm sure there are some great ones out there, but I sat through an hour of "meh" to get to the titled subject, which was underwhelmingly presented.  I could have skimmed and seen that in five minutes. Just saying.  :angel:
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by PJ Post on December 29, 2025, 08:30:56 AM »
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Are podcasters replacing authors?

Yes. A lot.

But it goes beyond podcasts. YouTube and Nebula both have longform documentary channels. Distribution channels and creative organizations are changing. We don't need network or studio money anymore. And for the average American, they're going to lean toward a video over a book pretty much every time, especially if they like the host/presenter.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Jeff Tanyard on December 29, 2025, 06:36:27 AM »
In a good and entertaining way, podcasts rely on sensationalism and cherry-picking the juicy info.


I disagree.  It's very difficult to sit and bullsh*t a podcaster to his face for three hours straight without tripping yourself up at some point.  For a few minutes, sure, but three hours is a Herculean challenge.  We also have the advantage, when the podcast is in video form, of reading facial expressions and body language to gauge credibility.  Furthermore, the comment sections at those sites allow the viewers to immediately discuss any lies or contradictions, so debunking happens essentially immediately.  Long-form podcasts are one of the better vehicles we have for quickly sussing out the poseurs and charlatans.

The "sensationalism and cherry-picking" you mention is what legacy media do.  It's the stuff of newspapers and television, not unedited long-form podcasts.  I'm old enough to remember stuff like this (which was only debunked because GM had deep pockets and a whistleblower and was able to gather forensic evidence from junkyards; most media lies go unchallenged due to the expense and lack of whistleblowers and available forensic evidence). 

Non-fiction books are extremely valuable and irreplaceable, but that's only the case if they're factual and written in good faith.  An awful lot of "non-fiction" is in fact nothing but convincingly-told lies--I mean, for almost any polemic, you can find another book taking the opposite position, and they obviously can't both be true--and the format doesn't lend itself to immediate pushback like podcasts do, and that's a weakness of the format.

No, I think podcasts are a superior format for disseminating information, and I think they're here to stay until the government decides to censor--I mean, "regulate"--them in order to protect their corporate, NGO, and foreign friends and prevent their own dirty laundry from being aired.

I still love reading non-fiction books, by the way.  For example, The Mutiny on the Bounty and The Ballad of the Whiskey Robber are highly entertaining and utterly fascinating, and I'll recommend them to anyone.  I learned to play the banjo from reading how-to books.  I gave three family members non-fiction books--two how-to books, one sports-related motivational book--for Christmas just a few days ago.  And I've read plenty of more scholarly things, too, in the fields of politics and philosophy and history and economics.  I obviously value that stuff.  I simply recognize the format's limitations, that's all.
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Publisher's Office [Public] / Re: Are podcasters replacing authors?
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on December 29, 2025, 12:27:26 AM »
Oh, I loved Our Miss Brooks!

Fun facts: it started out as a stage play. then became a radio show, and after the TV show, a movie (not all that common with television in those days). I think it may also have been responsible for some of Eve Arden's later roles, such as the principal in Grease She played a lot of roles on Broadway, in the movies and on television, but Our Miss Brooks seems to have been the role that people most associate with her.

The role was popular enough in the educational community to get her an honorary membership in the National Education Association and a service award from Connecticut Teachers' College for "humanizing the American teacher." Bizarrely, it also got her a number of offers of teaching positions. [Some people have a hard time distinguishing film and TV from reality. I've heard that the inhabitants of Baker Street were driven crazy by tourists wanting to know where 221B (Sherlock Holmes' address) was. And I know that many students involved in these large pen-pal type exchanges (like the Great American Mail Race) wrote to West Beverly Hills High School (the fictional school in Beverly Hills: 90210). I know this because the post office, not knowing what else to do with them, sent them to Beverly Hills High School, where I was working. When I was in a mischievous mood, I'd sometimes get students with names like Brandon, Dylan, and Kelly to answer them.] :hehe   
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