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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on July 07, 2024, 11:49:20 PM »
My concerns are a little less dystopian than that. I don't see AI as a plot to eliminate certain people. The movement toward AI is more like not giving a damn what happens to anyone else.

AI faces significant obstacles. Whether or not they can be overcome is a subject we can debate ad nauseum--and already have. Yet here we are again--in a thread that wasn't about AI in the first place.

So why not repeat the things I and others have already said?

Obstacles:
Power consumption. AI is an absolute power hog. A number of estimates suggest that AI's continuing expansion will result in collapsing power grids sooner rather than later. At least in the US, operations to expand our energy output are hampered by political differences and perceptions of reality. We may be faced with either having to curtail the use of AI or having to ration power for everything. AI can undeniably do a lot of useful things. Maybe we should save it for synthesizing medical data to cure cancer and let humans continue to design our book covers and narrate our audio books. Just a thought.

Water consumption. AI pushes up server cooling requirements. With droughts becoming a more common phenomenon, use of water for server cooling becomes a real issue.

Copyright. AI stretches the concept of fair use to the limit--and well beyond, in my opinion. Courts may or may not agree. There are legal arguments on both sides. Existing laws were clearly not designed to deal with AI training, so such a use isn't expressly prohibited. On the other hand, such usage is nothing like any other established application of fair use. I don't see Congress acting in the near future. EU regulators might be a better bet. But collectively, there are enough potential legal entanglements to make AI's future uncertain.

AI food shortage. Even AI developers acknowledge that AI needs a constant diet of new IP to stay current and refine its capabilities. That's also probably why Sam Altman was looking for another billion in investment. But here's the thing. Developers also acknowledge that AI feeding on its own output will steadily degrade in quality. It needs new human input. But what happens when creative applications are no longer financially viable for humans, and they cease producing public output? AI starves. What happens if regulators leave the previous training alone but ban any new use of the IP of others without consent and compensation? AI starves.

(Documentation can be found in the earlier threads.)

My own experience with Shutterstock AI makes me doubt AI is any kind of next level wonderful. In saying that, I acknowledge that Shutterstock, which voluntarily compensates artists and limits its training data to those artists it distributes (and is thus able to compensate) may be more limited, though I've heard just recently similar complaints about Midjourney, and we've also seen some freakish examples of what AI produces.

As I've mentioned elsewhere, I can get some beautiful images. No question. But I may have to generate hundreds to get a viable one. The output varies from perfect fulfillment of the prompt to ignoring part of the prompt to not seeming to understand what it's doing at all. Occasionally, I have to abandon a concept completely and try something else because AI outright chokes on it and can't produce a single image that fits, no matter what I do. (Luckily, Shutterstock only charges the ones I actually download against my image credits. If it counted every image I generated--or even 25% of them, since AI generates four at a time--it would quickly become impractical.)

(Examples can be found in earlier threads.)

So for now, I use the work of human photographers for any application where I can find a photo that works. And if anything, I'm ordering more from my cover designer. (The places I use Shutterstock AI are places I wouldn't have hired an artist for, anyway.)   
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by Post-Crisis D on July 07, 2024, 12:29:00 PM »
The one thing I have noticed is that there are groups of people that seem to feel other groups of people (i.e., people that aren't them) are useless and need to go away.  Those former groups of people seem to be the ones in favor of everything-AI.  Their PR is that everything-AI is for the benefit of everyone, yay, and balloons and unicorn sparkles for everyone!  But, if history is any guide, and it usually is, those groups of people will probably work to find a way to eliminate those other groups of people they deem useless and need to be done away with.  In the old days, they'd just up and find ways to kill them quickly.  Now, maybe they are more methodical.  You know, give them free stuff.  Promise them a guaranteed income and free stuff.  Free health care, yay!  Free transportation, yay!  Free food, yay!  Free whatever, yay!  And, then you get people dependent.  Then you ration.  Then maybe put stuff in their food and medicines that shorten their lifespans.  If anyone notices, call them nutty conspiracy theorists.  But, it's all good and they get everything free and they don't have to work anymore.  Then, if a neighboring town and all its people kind of just goes away, no, never happened.  That town never existed.  An Internet search confirms it.  You must be thinking of some other town.  Until the day comes when you never existed.

But, you know, yay for AI!
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Bullet list justified text looking odd
« Last post by Post-Crisis D on July 07, 2024, 12:16:18 PM »
Out of curiosity, I had to see how Pages handled it.  This is formatted without styles and just using the bulleted list format:


I imagine Word must have something similar.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Bullet list justified text looking odd
« Last post by Post-Crisis D on July 07, 2024, 12:03:10 PM »
Thanks. I never learned how to use headings or styles and originally formatted everything manually. It then became a mission to go back and try to add styles so I just carried on doing it manually  :icon_rolleyes:

It's easy and it will save yourself a ton of time in the future.

It can be time-consuming to change from no styles to using styles because you'll have instances where you need to uncorrect things you did manually.  You may also come across things such as italics.  Styles may override any words you have previously italicized.  (Which is a good argument for using styles to begin with.)  When switching from not using styles to using styles, what I've done is highlighted paragraphs and watched as I scrolled and highlighted.  When I came across something that was italicized or bolded (rarely), I'd stop.  Then I'd switch the selected paragraphs to whatever style they needed to be set in.  Then, I would move to the paragraph with italics and keep track of what words were italicized.  Then, highlight that paragraph, select the style and go back and re-italize words if necessary.

I should note I use Pages not Word so Word may behave differently with regard to handling italics when switching styles.

But it is well worth the effort to learn how to use styles and use them.  I used to be like, why?  I didn't see the benefit.  But, I learned later how much of a benefit it is and wished I had learned and used them years earlier.


Correct earlier stuff only as absolutely necessary.

The problem with that, if you make additional corrections in the future, it can become hard to keep track of what had and hasn't been corrected, which can create additional work.  Better to do it right to save yourself more hassle in the future.

I know because past-me has really left of mess of stuff for present-meŚthen future-meŚnow.  :HB
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on July 07, 2024, 11:56:33 AM »
Does it matter?

Yeah, it does. You're making a sweeping statement with no context otherwise.

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AI is displacing everything from Architecture to Interior Design to Web Design to Graphic Design to Branding to Illustration to Presentations to Wedding Planning and napkin patterns. No, AI can't compete with the best in the field, but the average client doesn't need the best - they just need good enough, which turns out to be a shockingly low bar.

Architecture  and interior design- I would never ever in a million years buy a Bot designed house, or let one design an interior for me. Not happening.

Web design has always been too expensive and delivered too little. It probably had an expiry date from the start.

Illustration - not until copyright laws change.

Wedding planning? Again, that's a job which probably had a short half life anyway. Most people can't afford them.

Napkin patterns? Who the hell does customized napkins? Who even uses them anymore?

Context matters.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by PJ Post on July 07, 2024, 03:57:47 AM »
Does it matter?

AI is displacing everything from Architecture to Interior Design to Web Design to Graphic Design to Branding to Illustration to Presentations to Wedding Planning and napkin patterns. No, AI can't compete with the best in the field, but the average client doesn't need the best - they just need good enough, which turns out to be a shockingly low bar.
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Formatter's Forge [Public] / Re: Bullet list justified text looking odd
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on July 07, 2024, 03:41:20 AM »
Yeah, it's hard to want to go back and fix things, particularly is there's a lot to fix. I find it's easier to set smaller goals and achieve them. "I will fix X in book Y" is easier than, "I will add styles to everything in every book."

Since your only problem right now appears to be those bulleted lists in one book, just fix those. Use styles going forward. Correct earlier stuff only as absolutely necessary.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on July 07, 2024, 01:47:31 AM »
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by PJ Post on July 07, 2024, 01:43:48 AM »
Design
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Really?
« Last post by TimothyEllis on July 07, 2024, 01:17:36 AM »
And since my career is literally one of the industries being AI'ed away

What's your career?
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