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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by TimothyEllis on June 13, 2024, 12:31:06 PM »
However, most if not all groups have rules asking that posts not be shared outside the group.

When people are afraid to even paraphrase what got posted, that makes it secret in my book. We have a locked thread here to prove that.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by Lorri Moulton on June 13, 2024, 12:24:48 PM »
It's not secret, it's a closed group (like most groups on Facebook now) to prevent the constant spamming. 

Anyone can join and many authors still have books in KU and other books/series are wide.  If someone does not want to be on Facebook, that's their choice. 

However, most if not all groups have rules asking that posts not be shared outside the group.

ETA: I'm not promoting one group over another, but in case anyone wants the link to see the B&N posts.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/556186621558858
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by TimothyEllis on June 13, 2024, 12:04:05 PM »
There's more info in the Wide for the Win group on Facebook.

Not everyone has access to that. Or even wants to go there.

As someone exclusive to KU, I'm not even game to go in there.

I'm also suspicious of any group that needs to keep things secret within the group. That's what the mastermind groups in 2018 were doing before Amazon cracked down on their members.

Just saying.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by Lorri Moulton on June 13, 2024, 11:51:18 AM »
There's more info in the Wide for the Win group on Facebook.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by TimothyEllis on June 13, 2024, 11:32:52 AM »
I just thought of yet another possibility. Over the past year, Ingram dropped their fee for publishing books. That could have sent over a glut of new paperbacks/hardcovers that overwhelmed B&N from Ingram ??

That could have encouraged the low contents banned from Amazon to use them instead.
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Hmm ... you're probably right, Tim. I'm just going to have to make an effort next time I'm in the Big Smoke and actually sit in a zillion chairs until I find one.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by Lorri Moulton on June 13, 2024, 06:37:17 AM »
One of my ebooks was missing (and I read about some others on Facebook). I took all my ebooks down until they figure it out.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by alhawke on June 13, 2024, 06:08:09 AM »
I just thought of yet another possibility. Over the past year, Ingram dropped their fee for publishing books. That could have sent over a glut of new paperbacks/hardcovers that overwhelmed B&N from Ingram ??
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by alhawke on June 13, 2024, 06:00:40 AM »
Did I miss the part where they took down ebooks? I thought the problem was just paperbacks.
Yes. ^^ some writers are reporting ebooks missing that were distributed by D2D. I have all mine sold direct still selling.

I'll make adjustments and re-publish all my paperbacks by B&N if that turns out to be the problem. I'm waiting a bit longer to see for sure if this is the cause it's going to be a major pain and time suck for 24 titles.
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Marketing Loft [Public] / Re: Missing paperbacks on B&N
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on June 13, 2024, 05:52:56 AM »
Did I miss the part where they took down ebooks? I thought the problem was just paperbacks. The few ebooks I still have wide are all still up. (And oddly, an audio book that wasn't up has now appeared.)

While I don't like this move, if ebooks were affected, wide authors could go direct to BN. After all, authors have had to do that with Google for some time. That was annoying, too, but people adapted.

As for paperbooks, a look at the website suggested to me what's going on. Nook Press is Now Barnes and Noble Press, and it seems to provide paperbacks and hardcovers exclusively to Barnes and Noble--no more expanded distribution from them for physical books. They aren't even pretending to offer store placement anymore, though they point out that a customer can order special order BN Press books at any store.  What they do claim to offer is
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We highlight both emerging and established B&N Press authors in monthly themed collections on BN.com.
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Reach half a million readers with our featured genre and deals newsletters.
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Your book could be featured in special offers exclusive to Barnes & Noble readers.
Now, all of that sounds impressive. It might not amount to the proverbial hill of beans, or it might be a meaningful burst of promotion, at least at first. My new theory is that BN is clearing the decks so that it can focus on indies it distributes. If they did meaningful promotion, that might actually end up being a good thing (aside from the hassle of having to set up paperbacks with a second or third distributor, depending on your current model).

So yeah, it isn't good, but it isn't really any worse that past shenanigans by Amazon or Google.

Edit: You can use BN Press for physical books only, meaning that those of us in KU could still go direct to BN in paper.
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