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Writer's Haven => Quill and Feather Pub [Public] => Topic started by: TimothyEllis on July 12, 2020, 02:30:46 PM
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Is there an easy way of cutting out a complicated image.
Thinking button press, not advanced Photoshop expertise.
Paint 3D does this, but it can't cope with anything complicated.
I'm trying to do this station. But all I get with P3D is a large area of background included, in spite of me making it a lot more defined before trying to cut.
Anyone know something better than Paint 3D?
But I don't use it enough to subscribe to a site.
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Photoshop has a select subject option. It’s ia menu option: Select > Subject. One click, no expertise.
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Photoshop has a select subject option. It’s a menu option: Select > Subject. One click, no expertise.
My version doesn't.
Must be a recent addition. I remember having to upgrade the program when I went to win 10, but not done so since.
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Photoshop has a select subject option. It’s a menu option: Select > Subject. One click, no expertise.
My version doesn't.
Must be a recent addition. I remember having to upgrade the program when I went to win 10, but not done so since.
I don't have paint 3-D, but I do have paint.net. I use the magic wand button to eliminate as much of the background as I can.
I usually start with 50% and click the magic wand anywhere on the background. Then I lower the percentage depending on how much area is left.
Invert the selection so that the background is eliminated and save the image to a PNG file.
There is a tutorial on YouTube and that's how I learned.
There are people on Fiverr who can do it.
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Photoshop has a select subject option. It’s ia menu option: Select > Subject. One click, no expertise.
Updated to 2020, but it cant pick this station out of the background. :(
I need a Plan B now.
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There may be other options. What is the new background going to be?
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There may be other options. What is the new background going to be?
I'm thinking of putting it into a cover, so look at the one on the right in my signature, and it needs to go inside the ring.
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What will the background color be?
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What will the background color be?
I haven't got that far yet. I was trying to determine if I could cut it out, before finding what to put behind it.
It would be similar to the others in the series though.
Unfortunately, what is behind the station now isn't similar enough to try and patch it in.
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I use GIMP (it's free). Then I just make the image as large as I need, and take their erasure and manually erase everything around the image I don't want. I can make the erasure as large as I need --if I'm erasing stuff around hair I often make the erasure only about a pixel big.
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I use GIMP (it's free). Then I just make the image as large as I need, and take their erasure and manually erase everything around the image I don't want. I can make the erasure as large as I need --if I'm erasing stuff around hair I often make the erasure only about a pixel big.
That actually gives me a thought. I might be working with too small an image.
Something to try tomorrow. :littleclap
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Okay. Here are some things you can try, assuming your software has some kind of hue or color adjustment filter.
What I was thinking was that you could make the clouds in the current background all the same color, either to match your new background so they blend in, or so that they can be changed to black. If you play with the brightness and contrast filters you should be able to get the background different enough that a regular magic wand can select it for deletion. And then you can zoom in to fix the tricky situations. Another trick is to use the color filters to exaggerate shadows and such so that instead of being shades of black, they become blues and oranges, which are much easier to select. Then you can select the areas from one layer and switch layers and delete them there. You can play with a few layers like this because the goal is just to eliminate the background.
Once you have an empty background you can use it to isolate the space station on the original layer.
Also, if you have a polygonal lasso tool you can just zoom in and slowly work your way around the space station. When I do it I go in small sections, deleting background as I go, rather than trying to cut the whole image out in a single pass. Once I've created a pseudo-moat around the image it's easy to delete the rest of the background.
The only places that look tricky are the super black shadows.
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Not sure if everyone knows this trick, but thought I'd add it here just in case.
When pasting an isolated image onto a new background it can often look, well...photo-chopped, as they say.
Here's a trick to integrate the image into the new background.
1. Try and line up the light sources of the different layers, at least from the left or right, so flip the image or background as necessary.
2. Select the empty area around the image to be pasted and then expand it so that it overlays part of the image, like a border or an outline. You don't want it to be super thin or too chunky. The next step is to use the regular blur filter. Then reduce the selected area so the outline is thinner (by about half) and then use the blur more filter. Image resolution matters, so experiment to get the best results. We want the image to fade out into the background at the edges.
3. Use the color filters to get the tones of the image to match those of the background. This can be done on the foreground or background or both. They don't have to be exact, just match the coolness or warmth or whatever.
4. Once the layers have been composited into a single art image (before adding the titles and stuff), use the tone filter to adjust the colors once again. The idea here is that this filter will adjust the entire image which will better integrate the various images into one, so add blue or yellow or green or whatever. A little goes a long way. Once this is done, you can also dial up the saturation to amplify the effect.
5. The last part (if needed) is to introduce noise into the final image (single layer), but if you use this option, do it before step 4. Make sure the add noise filter is set to monochromatic. It doesn't take much. The idea is to make it look like a fine film grain. Again, since the filter is applied evenly to the entire image, it gives it a cohesive original image vibe, which is enhanced all the more by step 4 above.
Hope this helps.
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I use GIMP (it's free). Then I just make the image as large as I need, and take their erasure and manually erase everything around the image I don't want. I can make the erasure as large as I need --if I'm erasing stuff around hair I often make the erasure only about a pixel big.
That actually gives me a thought. I might be working with too small an image.
Something to try tomorrow. :littleclap
I just magnify the image I'm working on, then vary the size of the erasure brush as I erase everything around its outline. When I get to the image outline's nooks and crannies, I just make the image as big as I need to to see exactly what needs erasing, then make the erasure brush as small as I want so I can erase just what I need to. Makes the remaining image I want look nice and crisp.
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Phlearn has some amazing PS tutorials. They did a 30 day event and will take you step by step through different techniques.
https://phlearn.com/
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Magnetic lasso + eraser. Then it's just a matter of blending images/layers as P.J. described.
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Bookmarking this to learn. I've been trying to do something similar (but with a kitten picture) :catrun
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There's no one-click way to do this unless...
Given that you'll have to get permission from the artist to use the work, perhaps said artist still has the layered version of the original composition. In PS that would be the .psd file. In Gimp, .xcf. Get that file and you're home free. Might cost a couple bucks, but the time you'll spend tracing the image to make a layer mask might be worth the cost.
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There's no one-click way to do this unless...
Given that you'll have to get permission from the artist to use the work, perhaps said artist still has the layered version of the original composition. In PS that would be the .psd file. In Gimp, .xcf. Get that file and you're home free. Might cost a couple bucks, but the time you'll spend tracing the image to make a layer mask might be worth the cost.
I have the permission.
But the original model, and the original of the image, are currently locked down in a US university campus. The computer was sent there to have all it's files copied, and was still there when everything locked down. At the moment, there is no indication of when access will happen.
sh*t happens.
Leaves me with a station I want to use, and no way of easily getting it usable.
Still, plan D is trying to form at the back of mind.
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I haven't tried this. You get your first image free it appears. Probably worth a try. https://www.remove.bg/
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I haven't tried this. You get your first image free it appears. Probably worth a try. https://www.remove.bg/
Better, but still not close enough.
And they want you to sign up before they let you download the first one.
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I've been using a product called Inpixio. It seems like kind of a shysterish setup, but I bought it several years ago (and upgraded several times) and it's been very useful. I think it runs around $30 or so.
https://www.inpixio.com/photo-studio/?os=win (https://www.inpixio.com/photo-studio/?os=win)
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(https://i.imgur.com/eznkFfb.png)
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How did you do that?
It's lost a few gun barrels, but that's better than I've been able to do so far.
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How did you do that?
It's lost a few gun barrels, but that's better than I've been able to do so far.
Just a few minutes with Inpixio. It's a pretty smart program. I literally spent less than 10 minutes.
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I should have posted this one instead, it has no background.
(https://i.imgur.com/lPFSN0V.png)
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How did you get rid of the coloured areas?
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How did you get rid of the coloured areas?
Like I say, a few minutes with Inpixio. It does a great job of intelligently taking out backgrounds. You can also highlight areas where it removed too MUCH and put them back, like the gun barrels for instance. It does other things like taking things OUT of the middle of a picture. It's a pretty cool program, and like I say, at $30 is pretty cheap.
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How did you get rid of the coloured areas?
Like I say, a few minutes with Inpixio. It does a great job of intelligently taking out backgrounds. You can also highlight areas where it removed too MUCH and put them back, like the gun barrels for instance. It does other things like taking things OUT of the middle of a picture. It's a pretty cool program, and like I say, at $30 is pretty cheap.
I have a feeling I looked at it, but either the website version didn't do the job, or the program didn't have a downloadable trial version. But freely admit I tried a number of them and could be mixing them all up now.
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I was under the impression they offered a "free" version, but I'm not sure what it did.
I have Affinity, Photoshop and GIMP and I still use InPixio for stuff. It's just so easy. And it's dang near a miracle when it takes something out of the picture and it's hard to tell it was ever there. The program extrapolates what was behind the item you removed. Obviously it works best with sand or water or the like, but it will do a pretty credible wall and things like that. It's a great way of removing the ex from pictures. :-)
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Simon and MaxDaemon, thank you for the links. I'll be playing with these over the next few weeks.