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Title: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: xxxx on February 03, 2021, 07:30:04 AM
Hmm...

Title: Jeff Bezos stepping down
Post by: okey dokey on February 03, 2021, 09:25:36 AM
He is giving up as Amazon CEO.

Was anti monopoly probe the final straw?
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Jeff Tanyard on February 03, 2021, 09:44:56 AM
Doesn't surprise me.  He's obviously been hands-off for a while.  And considering the drama in his personal life, I can't say I blame him.

I don't own shares of the company, but if I did, then this is what I would call a sell signal.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Eric Thomson on February 03, 2021, 09:57:00 AM
I guess it means he'll be running SPECTRE full-time.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: R. C. on February 03, 2021, 10:01:34 AM
I guess it means he'll be running SPECTRE full-time.

I thought he was head poohbah of KAOS?

Cheers,
R.C.

Also: Fake digital credits to everyone who does not have to Googles poohbah and KAOS.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Lorri Moulton on February 03, 2021, 10:04:44 AM
The man replacing him, Andy Jassy, is CEO of Amazon Web Services.  I wonder if this will impact authors at all...better, worse, or business as usual?
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Eric Thomson on February 03, 2021, 10:10:00 AM
I guess it means he'll be running SPECTRE full-time.

I thought he was head poohbah of KAOS?

Cheers,
R.C.

Also: Fake digital credits to everyone who does not have to Googles poohbah and KAOS.

No need to get smart with us. Now, you tell me who Bezos really is:
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: PJ Post on February 04, 2021, 12:07:30 AM
I predict a further tightening of the screws.

Isn't self-publishing fun?   :banana-riding-llama-smiley-em
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: notthatamanda on February 04, 2021, 02:30:09 AM
I think if you asked Jassy what he planned to do about KDP now that he's in charge he'd need an assistant to slip him a note to tell him what KDP is.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: RPatton on February 04, 2021, 09:15:11 AM
This announcement came out after their earnings, which were strong, and the news that there was a lot of money not paid out that should have been (audits, which is why we all got extra payments), which isn't good. These stories are all being buried by the announcement that he's leaving.

I actually don't think he got pushed out, I think he planned on leaving (he's not leaving to Q3). I also don't think he planned on announcing until Q2, but they needed a way to sink the bad stories and his departure is the way to do it.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: notthatamanda on February 04, 2021, 10:09:56 AM
This announcement came out after their earnings, which were strong, and the news that there was a lot of money not paid out that should have been (audits, which is why we all got extra payments), which isn't good. These stories are all being buried by the announcement that he's leaving.

I actually don't think he got pushed out, I think he planned on leaving (he's not leaving to Q3). I also don't think he planned on announcing until Q2, but they needed a way to sink the bad stories and his departure is the way to do it.
Are you talking about the dividend?
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Luke Everhart on February 04, 2021, 01:20:59 PM
Bezos isn't disengaging to meddle more in WaPo or dabble in politics. He's transitioning to the executive chairman position of the Zon.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-jeff-bezos-is-stepping-down-as-ceo-but-staying-on-as-executive-chairman-and-what-that-means-11612366771
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: RPatton on February 05, 2021, 10:49:41 AM
This announcement came out after their earnings, which were strong, and the news that there was a lot of money not paid out that should have been (audits, which is why we all got extra payments), which isn't good. These stories are all being buried by the announcement that he's leaving.

I actually don't think he got pushed out, I think he planned on leaving (he's not leaving to Q3). I also don't think he planned on announcing until Q2, but they needed a way to sink the bad stories and his departure is the way to do it.
Are you talking about the dividend?

No. The dividend is paid to shareholders, I they will always be paid.

Amazon had an independent audit, as all companies with a certain number of employees must have. The audit revealed 62 million (I think it was 62, too lazy to go and check) in tips not paid to drivers, the extra funds from KDP paid to authors, and I assume other areas where funds hung around in the ether until someone asked why they hadn't been paid out to the intended recipients.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: notthatamanda on February 05, 2021, 11:09:20 AM
Not saying I don't believe you, but why would they have tips for drivers? Do you have a link for this? I thought you meant the dividend was stingy compared to the amount of revenue.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Lorri Moulton on February 05, 2021, 12:54:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtQvngcU4AALwCX?format=jpg&name=small)

It's been all over Twitter.  Here's a link...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-drivers-idUSKBN2A2241
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Jeff Tanyard on February 05, 2021, 06:53:32 PM
Just FYI, Amazon doesn't pay a dividend.  They never have.  There has been grumbling about this for years, some from the shareholders and some from analysts.

RPatton, thanks for mentioning that "tips for drivers" thing.  I hadn't heard about it.  And thanks to Lorri for the link.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: notthatamanda on February 05, 2021, 10:09:30 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtQvngcU4AALwCX?format=jpg&name=small)

It's been all over Twitter.  Here's a link...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-drivers-idUSKBN2A2241
Thanks. I don't look at Twitter so I didn't see anything. I get it now. Customers adding tips to the balance of their order and Amazon not paying them. I would have assumed that was an option for Whole Foods delivery, but I never saw it as an option for regular stuff you order.



Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: PJ Post on February 06, 2021, 12:04:33 AM
$62 million isn't even coffee money to Amazon. It's more like a rounding error.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Anarchist on February 06, 2021, 03:55:53 AM
$62 million isn't even coffee money to Amazon. It's more like a rounding error.

I've seen comments on Reddit vilifying Amazon for having some nefarious money-swiping scheme in play.

But I'm with you. Amazon is probably wondering "Hey, where'd this extra dime come from?"
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: notthatamanda on February 06, 2021, 04:20:42 AM
Only barely tangentially related comment - I saw a Ryder (logistics) commercial and they got a guy who's a dead ringer for Bezos in it. I had to rewind and then google if Amazon bought Ryder (no) cause I thought I had missed something.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Lynn on February 06, 2021, 05:51:40 AM
A good accounting system wouldn't leave that much money in limbo. Someone (or several someones more likely) isn't doing their job.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Post-Doctorate D on February 06, 2021, 06:20:46 AM
A good accounting system wouldn't leave that much money in limbo. Someone (or several someones more likely) isn't doing their job.

Don't worry.  They'll probably get promoted.  grint
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: Jeff Tanyard on February 06, 2021, 08:04:51 AM
Only barely tangentially related comment - I saw a Ryder (logistics) commercial and they got a guy who's a dead ringer for Bezos in it. I had to rewind and then google if Amazon bought Ryder (no) cause I thought I had missed something.


I've thought for a while now that if Bezos ever went into acting, he'd make a great Lex Luthor.  He looks exactly like the character looks in my mind.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: RPatton on February 06, 2021, 01:45:20 PM
$62 million isn't even coffee money to Amazon. It's more like a rounding error.

But it's not. Every penny must be accounted for. Even if it's a drop in a bucket, it's still a drop that has to be accounted for. Independent audits happen specifically to make sure every penny is accounted for and $62 millions is a lot of pennies to not be counted. Now, I doubt it was nefarious on Amazon's part, but I do think it's endemic of Bezo's attempts to scrape every penny from every point available. At some point SOP becomes a hazard to shareholders.

Plus, that 62 million might have been a drop in the bucket to Amazon, but that $20 in tip money might have been half a gas tank so a driver could grab more jobs so they could make $50 and buy groceries for the week.

The main point is that it's not Amazon's money. Just like the 70% or 35% isn't Amazon's money either. Better yet, what if Amazon implemented a Pay What You want system and what if someone paid $5 more than the average buyer for your book? Would you be okay with Amazon keeping that $5 from you because of an accounting mistake?
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: LBL on February 09, 2021, 05:36:35 AM
Maybe he's stepping down to finally go full-time with his Bella Forrest brand.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: RPatton on February 10, 2021, 01:45:01 PM
Maybe he's stepping down to finally go full-time with his Bella Forrest brand.

Well if he is, he's going about it in a weird way because one side filed in Washington and included Amazon... So he'd be suing his own company.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: LBL on February 15, 2021, 07:27:00 AM
Maybe he's stepping down to finally go full-time with his Bella Forrest brand.

Well if he is, he's going about it in a weird way because one side filed in Washington and included Amazon... So he'd be suing his own company.

The ultimate long con.
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: RPatton on February 20, 2021, 03:34:31 AM
Maybe he's stepping down to finally go full-time with his Bella Forrest brand.

Well if he is, he's going about it in a weird way because one side filed in Washington and included Amazon... So he'd be suing his own company.

The ultimate long con.

I admit, there's a little part of me who now wants "Amber" to be unmasked as Bezos. :)
Title: Re: Bezos standing down as CEO
Post by: The Masked Scrivener on February 25, 2021, 04:59:19 PM