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Title: Word weirdness
Post by: JRTomlin on September 29, 2018, 05:28:32 AM
I just noticed that unloosened means the same as loosened.  :icon_think:
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: RCoots on September 29, 2018, 05:56:57 AM
 :eek:

You're right!

Go home English language, you're drunk! And don't mug any other languages for grammar on the way!

Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: guest215 on September 29, 2018, 06:11:37 AM
 grint  That's a good one.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: Post-Doctorate D on September 29, 2018, 07:58:14 AM
If you loosen something, you're just loosening it.  If you unloosen it, you're really loosening it.

Un- as a prefix usually means to undo, free or remove something but there's a rarer usage where it's an intensifier.  So to unloosen is an intensified loosening of something.  So it means the same thing but not precisely the same thing except over time it has come to mean the same thing, likely due to writers pulling out the thesaurus to avoid repetition.  "I just used loosen, what can I use to not sound repetitive?  Oh, here it is.  Unloosen!"

Silly writers.  No respect for accurate word meanings.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: JRTomlin on September 29, 2018, 08:09:43 AM
Oh, I don't know. I had a man unloosen the reins which meant to take them completely loose. I'm not sure how they could get any more unloosened than that.  :icon_rofl:


I still think it's a bit of word weirdness.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: Becca Mills on October 02, 2018, 03:59:51 PM
Y'all are way ahead of me. I didn't even know "unloosened" was a word.  :icon_redface:
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: JRTomlin on October 03, 2018, 06:01:53 AM
I was bitten by a novel by Alexandre Dumas at an early age and have suffered from weird-worditis ever since.  :help
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: RCoots on October 03, 2018, 08:01:58 AM
I was bitten by a novel by Alexandre Dumas at an early age and have suffered from weird-worditis ever since.  :help

weird-worditis? I think I may have the opposite. I used to have a quiet contest going with a classmate as to who had read more of the DICTIONARY.

Of course, I also do silly things like put 'cognizate' in a story and think it may actually be a word.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: idontknowyet on October 03, 2018, 09:14:17 AM
I was bitten by a novel by Alexandre Dumas at an early age and have suffered from weird-worditis ever since.  :help

weird-worditis? I think I may have the opposite. I used to have a quiet contest going with a classmate as to who had read more of the DICTIONARY.

Of course, I also do silly things like put 'cognizate' in a story and think it may actually be a word.



Spelling is not my thing but I auto corrected cognizate in my head to cognizant.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: JRTomlin on October 03, 2018, 09:25:22 AM
I remember well some years ago on a forum where I occasionally posted bits of a story for comment being taken to task for using fillip and being told it was a word no one knew.  :confused:
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: RCoots on October 03, 2018, 09:28:30 AM
I remember well some years ago on a forum where I occasionally posted bits of a story for comment being taken to task for using fillip and being told it was a word no one knew.  :confused:

/headesk

That reminds me of the sample edit I gave out when I was looking for copy editors. I had a word in there (don't remember what it was now) that is rather archaic. One editor 'corrected' the spelling into something completely different. Another said 'Hey, I learned a new word today, cool!"

Speaking of cool, did you know coolth is a word? It boggles me.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: JRTomlin on October 03, 2018, 09:44:25 AM
 :clap :clap :clap Coolth really is a new word to me. Great one.
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: Cathleen on October 03, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
With me the word that bugs me is "invaluable." I can't use it. It means extremely valuable, but it's structured like it means the exact opposite. The discrepancy is distressing enough that other than this post, I don't think I've ever typed the word.

So weird words can give me odd writer's scruples. :)
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: TimothyEllis on October 03, 2018, 05:14:33 PM
Unloosen means to tighten back up.  :hehe
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: Michelle Louring on October 03, 2018, 05:37:37 PM
With me the word that bugs me is "invaluable." I can't use it. It means extremely valuable, but it's structured like it means the exact opposite. The discrepancy is distressing enough that other than this post, I don't think I've ever typed the word.


I never thought about that, but now you pointed it out, you might have ruined the word for me as well  :shocked:
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: Cathleen on October 03, 2018, 11:01:25 PM
Sorry, Michelle--perhaps this word will make partial amends. I actually like cleave, since it means both to split apart and to cling to, depending on context. But that's a meaning thing, not that its structure is faulty. For some reason, that matters. I have no idea what this says about me, other than my readers will never have to deal with "invaluable."
Title: Re: Word weirdness
Post by: guest215 on October 06, 2018, 09:13:21 AM
To "pants" someone and to "de-pants" them is the same thing.