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Title: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: The Bass Bagwhan on November 21, 2023, 07:34:20 PM
By default, my assumed best markets are the US, the UK, and everything else afterwards. But I wonder if Canada with 40m people is a better target than the UK with its 70m because the UK economy is a basket case?

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: TimothyEllis on November 21, 2023, 08:13:32 PM
More or less irrelevant.

AUS is 5.5%. Germany is 1.1%. CAN is 0.9%.

UK on the other hand is 14.8%.

As far as I can see, the CAN store has the same rank madness going on as the US store has, while the UK and AUS stores are madness free.
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: Bill Hiatt on November 22, 2023, 12:54:20 AM
I've never had business in Canada proportionate to the population. Maybe if I advertised there? But for me, it has come in behind UK, Australia, and even Germany and France.
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: LilyBLily on November 22, 2023, 12:59:02 AM
The only time I sell to Canada in a significant amount is if I get an international BookBub.

However, I signed up for Kobo Plus and it has earned me some nice little chunks of change. A bit more than coffee money, and I didn't have to do a thing.
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: Crystal on November 22, 2023, 04:52:49 AM
I haven't had success in really increasing my Canadian sales, but what I've heard from Canadians is:

You need to price lower, closer to the same as US or $1 more (i.e. a 4.99 USD book should be 5.99 CAD max but 4.99 would be better). Canadian readers won't buy books priced "the same" as US (closer to 6.99 IIRC).
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: elleoco on November 22, 2023, 12:48:11 PM
Any given book of mine is priced the same everywhere, except the non-U.S. ones are rounded off a bit to compensate for strange outcomes of straight currency conversion.

Keep in mind I don't advertise. I'm fortunate to have a very good word-of-mouth fan base that has kept sales of my backlist to 4 figures a month (barely) for several years although I haven't published anything.

Historical Western Romance
US sales are 10 times UK.
UK sales are 12 times Canadian.
Canadian and Australian sales are about the same.
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: The Bass Bagwhan on November 22, 2023, 02:24:18 PM
Wow, thanks ... that pretty much answers that one!
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: alhawke on November 22, 2023, 04:39:06 PM
You can feel the market by how easy it is to move up ranks. In the Amazon market, the US seems the highest saturated, UK comes second, then Australia and, probably, last is Canada. This means that competition is more fierce in the US Amazon market, but it also means that more readers are available to buy your book there.

In Kobo, it's flipped. Canada is their largest market and the US is the most scant.

I don't have a great feel for Apple's market. I'm betting it's similar to Amazon. B&N is US. GooglPlay is GooglePlay. (I've given up advertising with Googleplay. For some reason, I  can get lots of clicks for googleplay books with ads without any sales).

I wouldn't turn away from the Amazon Canadian market. The disadvantage is there's less readers, but it's also easier to keep a book hovering on bestseller lists. And sometimes ads work better in smaller markets because of less competition.
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: cecilia_writer on December 05, 2023, 11:29:38 PM
I was just catching up with posts earlier today and read this thread, then went on to check my sales on Amazon. Much to my surprise, so far this month 53% of my sales have been in Canada (39% UK and 5% Australia). Obviously this is ratber a small number of sales in real numbers, but it made me laugh.
No, I haven't done any advertising in Canada, though like many Scots I do have quite a number of cousins there!
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: dianapersaud on January 31, 2024, 08:32:23 AM
In November 2023, I used written word media’s romance promo to promote Seduced by the Wolf, which is in KU. Since then, my UK and CA royalties have increased (UK is 49%, CA is around 20%). Typically the US store is  80%+ for me, so I definitely saw a significant change.


Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: alhawke on February 01, 2024, 02:04:18 AM
In November 2023, I used written word media’s romance promo to promote Seduced by the Wolf, which is in KU. Since then, my UK and CA royalties have increased (UK is 49%, CA is around 20%). Typically the US store is  80%+ for me, so I definitely saw a significant change.
Interesting. I think these numbers are constantly changing. I'm seeing more international sales since November, but your intl numbers are pretty spread out.
Title: Re: What's your experience with Canada as a market?
Post by: Wonder on February 02, 2024, 06:56:30 AM
Canada is my #3 after US and UK. I do better there since going wide and getting my books into Kobo.