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Title: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Tom Wood on October 08, 2018, 03:36:10 PM
At the moment I'm at WP dot com so I don't have any choice if they decide to deploy there or not. But, long term, what's the big deal? It looks like a step toward competing with the drag-and-drop website building tools. Is that right, or is there more to it than that?
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Jeff Tanyard on October 08, 2018, 03:45:59 PM
At the moment I'm at WP dot com so I don't have any choice if they decide to deploy there or not. But, long term, what's the big deal? It looks like a step toward competing with the drag-and-drop website building tools. Is that right, or is there more to it than that?


I have no idea what you're talking about.  But I've also been lobotomized by the theme change, so take that into account.  So much red...

In the meantime, here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.


(https://i.imgur.com/ZUtrf2T.jpg)
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Cathleen on October 08, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
Jeff, that bunny is possibly the most brilliant non sequitur I've ever seen. :)
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: M R M on October 26, 2018, 05:00:56 PM
I think I bought a used car from that bunny once...

I think it's nothing toworry about. It's just wordpress trying to roll in something like Joomla has with YouTheme, and other such things on various platforms. If if works, is easy, and lifts the bar for design standards of wordpress sites without charging us all to use it, then sweet!
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Lysmata Debelius on October 26, 2018, 05:12:00 PM
At the moment I'm at WP dot com so I don't have any choice if they decide to deploy there or not. But, long term, what's the big deal? It looks like a step toward competing with the drag-and-drop website building tools. Is that right, or is there more to it than that?

I had to google to figure out what you meant :) but thanks! I'd somehow missed this.

https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/ (https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/)

Seems like they're changing the editing options? I must say, anytime anyone tells me that something will be my "new best friend" my hackles rise. But it looks like it might be fine.
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: M R M on October 26, 2018, 05:58:39 PM
That being said their example of a beautiful block post is freaking hideous!
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Tom Wood on October 26, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
"Gutenberg will soon be the new WordPress editor. "  (my emphasis)

They've now posted that as part of an announcement at the top of my Admin page, with an invitation to activate it now. No hint that I can de-activate it later. Hmmmm.... It will be the default with WP 5.0, with the current editor as a plugin.

The future, it just keeps coming at ya!
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Michelle Louring on October 26, 2018, 08:33:49 PM
Urgh... I really should give it a chance, but I'm a creature of habit.
For a young person working in IT, I'm very opposed to new things  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: ilamont on October 26, 2018, 09:45:02 PM
I'm concerned 5.0 is going to break plugins and themes. 
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Bill Hiatt on October 27, 2018, 12:02:11 AM
"Gutenberg will soon be the new WordPress editor. "  (my emphasis)

They've now posted that as part of an announcement at the top of my Admin page, with an invitation to activate it now. No hint that I can de-activate it later. Hmmmm.... It will be the default with WP 5.0, with the current editor as a plugin.

The future, it just keeps coming at ya!
I was comforted by the option to retain the current editing process as a plugin.

I'm also concerned about the issue Ilamont raises, but hopefully at least the major theme and plugin developers are already working on Gutenberg-friendly versions. My theme at least seems to have an update at least once a week, and most plugins I use update at least once a month, so it's clear the developers are not asleep.
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Tom Wood on October 27, 2018, 12:51:00 AM
I'm at WP dot com with a service plan that doesn't include the ability to add plugins, so I will be assimilated.
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Denise on October 27, 2018, 04:09:17 AM
I'm concerned 5.0 is going to break plugins and themes.

That's my concern as well. There are already wonderful themes and plugins that allow drag and drop and a lot more... I don't know. But then, it says you could switch back to classic. We'll have to see.

I'm at WP dot com with a service plan that doesn't include the ability to add plugins, so I will be assimilated.

Go to Wordpress.org. There isn't that much difference. Is Gutenberg coming to Wordpress.com as well? That makes a lot of sense, since you can't use builder plugins or themes. It makes a lot of sense to have an easier experience with Wordpress.com. They're losing to Wix, Weebly, and Squarespace. Oh, well, I think for websites they'll keep losing, but they're blogging platform is more powerful.
Title: Re: Wordpress and their Project Gutenberg
Post by: Tom Wood on October 27, 2018, 04:32:25 AM
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I'm at WP dot com with a service plan that doesn't include the ability to add plugins, so I will be assimilated.

Go to Wordpress.org. There isn't that much difference. Is Gutenberg coming to Wordpress.com as well? That makes a lot of sense, since you can't use builder plugins or themes. It makes a lot of sense to have an easier experience with Wordpress.com. They're losing to Wix, Weebly, and Squarespace. Oh, well, I think for websites they'll keep losing, but they're blogging platform is more powerful.

I had a self-hosted site and it was just too much work for the minimal site I'm running. Constant updates, and then it got hacked twice. I'm pretty sure by intent by my hosting company so they could upsell me on a protection plan. I actually like WP dot com for the quiet simplicity of the management side of it. I understand that's not for everyone.

Yeah, it looks like we will be the first to enjoy the new experience of Gutenberg whether we want to or not.