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Bar & Grill [Public] / Re: something the docs say is bad but you arenít convinced?
« Last post by elleoco on January 13, 2020, 12:06:21 PM »
When I was in the hospital two years ago, I ordered a spinach/mushroom/cheese omelet for breakfast every day. Very yum. One day, they decided to put me on a diabetic diet and insisted I have a carb. I tried arguing, but it was no use and I gave in. Did I eat that English Muffin? Uh-uh. Love oatmeal, but I'm starving an hour later. Same with any kind of pasta unless I have meat with it. Those carbs just digest away on me and my blood sugar drops like a stone.
The part of your post I bolded confuses me. All the recommendations I got for diet include an avoidance of much in the way of carbs (my bloodwork showed me crossing into prediabetes range a couple years ago). So the literature the doctor gave me and my own further research says carbs raise blood sugar and should be minimized and stuff like cauliflower fakes should be substituted for rice and pasta (and IMO cauliflower is cauliflower and doesn't vaguely resemble rice or pasta no matter how cleverly disguised).

You guys are lucky in liking protein and veggies. Personally, I'd be happy living on a diet of bread and potatoes with nothing else but fruit. Fortunately for me, I've lowered my blood sugar quite a bit losing weight and exercising. I do what I can with diet, and I'm lucky I don't have a sweet tooth, but for me eating right sucks.
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Bar & Grill [Public] / Re: something the docs say is bad but you arenít convinced?
« Last post by lea_owens on January 13, 2020, 11:37:17 AM »
Whatever you do - take care of your gut bugs and they'll take care of you. Stop eating whatever you want, and find out what they want you to eat. If they're happy, you'll have less colds and flus, less illness, and more overall happiness since the little blighters produce almost all of our 'feel good hormone' serotonin to reward us for feeding them properly.

What do they love? Pro-biotic foods for one. Like sauerkraut and high fibre foods. They're fine with a bit of meat since they evolved with us, but they're not overly rapt in really high meat diets. Raw vegetables like coleslaws are a favourite of theirs. We like to think we're such an evolved organism, superior to all others, but I suspect our gut bugs engineered us to ensure that they go on living - we are the bodies they built to ensure their survival. Take care of them.
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My new years resolution was to remember to bring my own Tupperware when we eat out, for leftovers.  Restaurant portions are ridiculous, unless you go somewhere very high end.

I'm kind of stunned about all the doctors/hospitals pushing carbs when people have diabetes. I've known about the glycemic index for more than twenty years and I'm not related to anyone diabetic (well, I expect that to change shortly but anyways).

We hear about the healthy plate here and that replaced the food pyramid a while ago.  Half your plate should be (non starchy) vegetables.

I make my husband muffins for his weekday breakfast. Cut way back on the sugar and load them up with fruit. Commercial produced muffins are ridiculous. Somehow a muffin just seems healthy than a donut, but the chains around here have to have their nutrition information displayed. At the largest donut chain most donuts are under 300 calories, some of the muffins are over 600.
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Bar & Grill [Public] / Re: something the docs say is bad but you arenít convinced?
« Last post by Maggie Ann on January 13, 2020, 10:42:40 AM »
I love cauliflower. At a chain restaurant, I was served cauliflower with enough gorgonzola mixed in with it to feed three people. It was a side dish, for crying out loud. Let me add chain restaurants to my list of things I hate. The portions are insane.

I always get two more meals out of restaurant dinners.
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Bar & Grill [Public] / Re: something the docs say is bad but you arenít convinced?
« Last post by LilyBLily on January 13, 2020, 10:36:03 AM »
I love cauliflower. At a chain restaurant, I was served cauliflower with enough gorgonzola mixed in with it to feed three people. It was a side dish, for crying out loud. Let me add chain restaurants to my list of things I hate. The portions are insane.

 
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Bran muffins <shudder>

To be honest, I always liked them. LOL. Probably because they're packed with sugar and you can lie to yourself that it's healthy. But I'm off the muffins now, I swear!
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Bar & Grill [Public] / Re: something the docs say is bad but you arenít convinced?
« Last post by Maggie Ann on January 13, 2020, 09:54:56 AM »
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Add on all the chemicals involved with our food -- from pesticides to preservatives, coloring and flavor enhancements -- and you've got a recipe for disaster.

It all started with the fear of saturated fat. Then we got the perfect storm of inflammatory seed oils, sugars, and all those "heart-healthy" (cough cough) whole grains.

Good for you that you are now addressing the issue! You can do it!

There are so many benefits to quitting that crap. I had a bad sun sensitivity, and now it's just gone. Husband and I are seeing health improvements all the time. We're carnivore-ish. People think we're nuts, tut-tutting us about our red meat consumption as they kill themselves on poinson bran muffins. But I've reviewed the science, and I'm living the results.

Bran muffins <shudder>
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Add on all the chemicals involved with our food -- from pesticides to preservatives, coloring and flavor enhancements -- and you've got a recipe for disaster.

It all started with the fear of saturated fat. Then we got the perfect storm of inflammatory seed oils, sugars, and all those "heart-healthy" (cough cough) whole grains. Here in Canada, the push for vegan diets is going strong, thanks to new marketing push from the Department of Agriculture. It's so sad. I don't know a healthy vegan. I know it's possible, but the ones I know all live off canola oil and sugar, in various shapes.

Good for you that you are now addressing the issue! You can do it!

There are so many benefits to quitting that crap. I had a bad sun sensitivity, and now it's just gone. Husband and I are seeing health improvements all the time. We're carnivore-ish. People think we're nuts, tut-tutting us about our red meat consumption as they kill themselves on poinson bran muffins. But I've reviewed the science, and I'm living the results.
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Bar & Grill [Public] / Re: something the docs say is bad but you arenít convinced?
« Last post by Maggie Ann on January 13, 2020, 09:47:15 AM »
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The stupid advice to load up on carbs happens despite the fact that vast numbers of carb groceries are processed and contain poisons that mess with human metabolism and have in one generation turned us into the fattest people on the planet.

This is so true. Years of eating "poor", having to fill up on carbs (they're good for you! HA), made me diabetic. I'm still struggling to get healthy again, because carbs are so bad for me. But, I like them. :(

The "food pyramid" is propaganda pushed by the people who make loads of money selling us cheap "food" and by the health care industry who make loads of money treating us when we get sick for eating all that crap.

Add on all the chemicals involved with our food -- from pesticides to preservatives, coloring and flavor enhancements -- and you've got a recipe for disaster.

When I was in the hospital two years ago, I ordered a spinach/mushroom/cheese omelet for breakfast every day. Very yum. One day, they decided to put me on a diabetic diet and insisted I have a carb. I tried arguing, but it was no use and I gave in. Did I eat that English Muffin? Uh-uh. Love oatmeal, but I'm starving an hour later. Same with any kind of pasta unless I have meat with it. Those carbs just digest away on me and my blood sugar drops like a stone.

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