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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon scores a point.
« Last post by David VanDyke on Today at 05:51:27 AM »
The last release notification from an author I follow came out in about 7 days. I'd be fine if they could do at least that well, consistently.
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon scores a point.
« Last post by TimothyEllis on Today at 01:03:11 AM »
Oh, I misread that. My availability emails usually come pretty fast, though. 4.5 hours is only a little faster than my norm. Still, I guess any improvement is better than no improvement.

For me, the average is 9 to 10 hours before they tell me it's live, and I can access the book again if I need to.
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon scores a point.
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on Today at 12:54:12 AM »
It would be nice to think that Amazon is making an effort to do those new release email faster. Of course, it could just be a fluke.

Not a new release email. It's the Your book is available in the store email.
Oh, I misread that. My availability emails usually come pretty fast, though. 4.5 hours is only a little faster than my norm. Still, I guess any improvement is better than no improvement.
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon scores a point.
« Last post by TimothyEllis on Today at 12:44:21 AM »
It would be nice to think that Amazon is making an effort to do those new release email faster. Of course, it could just be a fluke.

Not a new release email. It's the Your book is available in the store email.
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon scores a point.
« Last post by Bill Hiatt on Today at 12:42:56 AM »
It would be nice to think that Amazon is making an effort to do those new release email faster. Of course, it could just be a fluke.
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Amazon scores a point.
« Last post by TimothyEllis on Today at 12:37:29 AM »
Legend of Dreamwalker was up and live in just under an hour, and the email notification just arrived in 4.5 hours.

Amazon scores a point for fast work.

Now if only they could do that all the time?
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon encouraging Pre-Orders?
« Last post by notthatamanda on July 14, 2019, 09:45:55 PM »
I haven't tried a pre-order in ages. Since I'm wide, I never could get the booksellers to release them on the same day. Any hints?

I was going to ask about pre-orders on everyone but Amazon.  Do you just set your publication date for the date you want and let it fly?  I'm not overly concerned about the books being released on the same day, but I would like to hear about any pitfalls at other sales channels.  I hope this isn't too much of a thread derail.  Thanks, Amanda
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon encouraging Pre-Orders?
« Last post by PaulineMRoss on July 13, 2019, 07:15:20 PM »
Pre-orders work really well for those who have a regular release schedule of 1-3 monthly, so you can always have the next book in the series on pre-order. They work well for a rapid-release strategy: book 1 goes live, with book 2 and possibly book 3 on pre-order. They work well for anyone who has a lengthy pre-release procedure of beta readers, ARCs, etc, so you put the book on pre-order while you do the final polish, knowing it will be done on time. They DON'T work well for anyone whose production schedule is erratic, or who likes to just finish the book and bang it up on Amazon.

For anyone who does want to try it, the procedure is exactly as per uploading a finished book except that you specify a date for release and nowadays you don't even have to upload a file at this stage. But you set keywords, categories, blurb and pricing, exactly the same. The lock-out period is (I think) 10 days [ETA: Vanessa's right - it's 4 days] but they give you loads of warning and there's an actual countdown on the KDP page so you know how long you've got to the second. You can release early, although I think it can't be instantaneous - you have to pick a date 3-4 days away. If you miss the lock-out deadline without good reason, they ban you from pre-orders for a year, but they're sympathetic to tales of fire, flood, tempest and a death in the family.

I love pre-orders. They work really well for me, but I have a steady production schedule (currently 3-monthly) so the next book in series is always on pre-order and readers can go straight from the link at the back of the book to pre-order the next, if they want. Then on release day, I get a tidy lump sum of sales money, while the KU reads are kicking in. Also, there's now some rank benefit on release day from accumulated pre-orders, so you get a rank boost when the pre-order happens AND some benefit on release day. Which is very nice. But pre-orders aren't for everyone, and if you've managed fine without them all this time, Tim, I wouldn't bother with them now.
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon encouraging Pre-Orders?
« Last post by VanessaC on July 13, 2019, 07:09:32 PM »
Can someone go over the basics of pre-orders?

I read the KDP help, and it's not much help. I get they dont like you extending, or cancelling, but it seems they dont care if you deliver early?

I'm one who never knows how long a book will take to write, since there are too many variables going on.

Some of my books have taken 3 - 4 months, while others 6-8 weeks. Current WIP will be about 8 weeks, which is fast than normal these days.

So when you can never be sure, how do you safely do a pre-order?

What is the no change gap these days? The main reason I dont do pre-orders is I finish editing and upload. So I'd be worried about finishing, and then readers waiting for no reason while the no change gap happens.

Anyone using pre-orders want to lay it out for those who don't understand how it works?

Bear in mind, I'm still learning, but I'm also only on Amazon just now and have used the pre-order for every book so far.

- I only set up the pre-order when I have a decent first draft done, because I am confident I can finish a book well within the three month / 90 day maximum pre-order window, but I am not confident I can plot, write, edit and revise a book within 90 days (I also have a day job);

- I always set the maximum pre-order allowed, to give myself extra wriggle room;

- It used to be the case (I think) that you had to upload a file to bag your pre-order spot, but you can now set up a pre-order with no manuscript attached;

- When my final book / file is ready, I upload it and then bring forward the release date (Amazon seems happy to bring forward the release date);

- Amazon seems to have a four day "lock" period for pre-orders, and this also applies when you are bringing forward your release date. This week, I uploaded the final file on Monday and the earliest date I could set it to go live was Friday. (The time period may vary depending on time zone relative to "Amazon time" - I'm in the UK.)

Personally, I use pre-orders for a bunch of reasons, but it's good to let my (tiny) mailing list know the next book is on the way - really helps further into a series - and also to give me a hard deadline to work to.

As I think others have mentioned, Amazon doesn't like adding a pre-order to a series link - the explanation they gave me was that it means customers can't buy all the books at once.  However, they will add the pre-order to the series if you ask them.

Does that help?
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What are Amazon doing now? [Public] / Re: Amazon encouraging Pre-Orders?
« Last post by VanessaC on July 13, 2019, 06:58:39 PM »
I'm still very small fry, but the book I've just released was set up with a pre-order of 23 August and about 2 weeks ago my parents received a followers' email about it, so that was quite a way away from the scheduled release date.

Perhaps Amazon is experimenting?

When did you set up the pre-order? How many days after that was the email sent?

I just realised I'd assumed this was a "followers" email, but it could just have been because my parents have been kind enough to buy my books ...

Anyway, with that in mind - to answer your queries: pre-order was set up on 26 May, and the email went out, I think, a couple of weeks ago - so about a month or so after the pre-order was set up? But I wouldn't set my watch by that, as I have the impression Amazon make their own timetables.
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