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Leo

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2018, 04:20:31 PM »
Hi everyone. Great to see the Aussie thread is alive and kicking over here.

I'm looking for feedback from others who have published paperbacks with KDP and/or transferred books from Createspace.

I've been told by KDP that it 'typically' takes 30 days for the paperback edition to be available on the Australian Global store  "but additionally there are a few criteria that come into picture that decide whether or not a book should be made available in the Australian site. That being said, because there are many things that come into the criteria we can't exactly specify what they are." Excuse me! :help

Anyone else been told this?

Hi JB, they are basically the same in all ways, you'll find your KDP paperback available just like Createspace was. I've got mine in KDP print but not for Expanded Distribution, I use IngramSpark for that.

Make sure you tick 'All Territories' so your book is available everywhere.
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2018, 06:46:56 PM »
Hi everyone. Great to see the Aussie thread is alive and kicking over here.

I'm looking for feedback from others who have published paperbacks with KDP and/or transferred books from Createspace.

I've been told by KDP that it 'typically' takes 30 days for the paperback edition to be available on the Australian Global store  "but additionally there are a few criteria that come into picture that decide whether or not a book should be made available in the Australian site. That being said, because there are many things that come into the criteria we can't exactly specify what they are." Excuse me! :help

Anyone else been told this?

Hi JB, they are basically the same in all ways, you'll find your KDP paperback available just like Createspace was. I've got mine in KDP print but not for Expanded Distribution, I use IngramSpark for that.

Make sure you tick 'All Territories' so your book is available everywhere.

Having to wait 30 days for my paperback to be available - with some doubt as to whether the book will be accepted - is not exactly the same as CreateSpace, Leo.

That aside, I'd like to know more about what you are doing with your books. Do you mean you have published your print book twice? Once with KDP and again with IngramSpark. So, two ISBNs?
 

Lee Carlon

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2018, 09:31:50 AM »
The KDP print proofs/author copies is frustrating. The support page states, Australian users can use amazon.com or amazon.co.uk, but when I do I get the can't ship to Australia error.

I've emailed KDP to try and figure out where the discrepancy is, maybe the support page is out of date, or maybe they need to set a flag some where. I suspect the former but I'm hoping for the latter. I'll report back when I know more.
 

JB Rowley

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2018, 10:07:01 AM »
The KDP print proofs/author copies is frustrating. The support page states, Australian users can use amazon.com or amazon.co.uk, but when I do I get the can't ship to Australia error.

I've emailed KDP to try and figure out where the discrepancy is, maybe the support page is out of date, or maybe they need to set a flag some where. I suspect the former but I'm hoping for the latter. I'll report back when I know more.

To the best of my knowledge, Lee, the issue with author/proof copies has not been resolved - such luxuries are simply not available to Aussie authors. We have to buy copies through the retail store.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2018, 12:17:30 PM »
Hello! Another Australian reporting for duty.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2018, 12:20:17 PM »
So this KDP author's copies issue -- if we can only get copies from the AU retail store, that means we can't actually get proof copies? Like at all?

(the purpose of proof copies being to check them before they go on sale)

I'm taking this venture step by step. Ultimately, my plan is to sell paperback on Amazon via KDP, and use IS for Expanded Distribution.

It feels so wrong to sell a product and not be able to check it first.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2018, 12:24:57 PM »
So a while back I heard Joanna Penn say on her podcast that one can set the book prices higher in Australia because "Australians have a tolerance for higher prices". I remember that word: tolerance. I am not particularly tolerant of this, especially after being moved from .com to .com.au and seeing the difference in pricing for the same ebook.

Indies keep it fairly fair, but the big publishers seem to like a big difference. I appreciate that the Australian company is a different company, but still, when a new ebook release in the US is US$3.99, and in Australia is AU$11.99. And in that example they hadn't even redone the cover!

But I guess for indies the standard practice is to round up? So US$3.99 is AU$5.50 so round up to AU$5.99?

Anyway, when I priced my book, I rounded it down for Australian customers! Ha! I am the resistance!
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2018, 01:21:44 PM »
So a while back I heard Joanna Penn say on her podcast that one can set the book prices higher in Australia because "Australians have a tolerance for higher prices". I remember that word: tolerance. I am not particularly tolerant of this, especially after being moved from .com to .com.au and seeing the difference in pricing for the same ebook.

Indies keep it fairly fair, but the big publishers seem to like a big difference. I appreciate that the Australian company is a different company, but still, when a new ebook release in the US is US$3.99, and in Australia is AU$11.99. And in that example they hadn't even redone the cover!

But I guess for indies the standard practice is to round up? So US$3.99 is AU$5.50 so round up to AU$5.99?

Anyway, when I priced my book, I rounded it down for Australian customers! Ha! I am the resistance!

Haha! Nice, Astrid.  Grin

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2018, 02:02:19 PM »
So a while back I heard Joanna Penn say on her podcast that one can set the book prices higher in Australia because "Australians have a tolerance for higher prices". I remember that word: tolerance. I am not particularly tolerant of this, especially after being moved from .com to .com.au and seeing the difference in pricing for the same ebook.

Indies keep it fairly fair, but the big publishers seem to like a big difference. I appreciate that the Australian company is a different company, but still, when a new ebook release in the US is US$3.99, and in Australia is AU$11.99. And in that example they hadn't even redone the cover!

But I guess for indies the standard practice is to round up? So US$3.99 is AU$5.50 so round up to AU$5.99?

Anyway, when I priced my book, I rounded it down for Australian customers! Ha! I am the resistance!


I set mine at $1 more than the US prices. Canadian dollars the same.


One thing to bear in mind with US$3.99 vs A$11.99 - if it's a big publisher and the locals are editing the book for us/aus language differences, that aussie publisher will be paying their staff maybe twice what the US publisher will be, AND they're going to sell maybe 10% the number of copies their US counterpart will.

Re tolerance for pricing here, we don't get those poor-quality dimestore $6.99 paperbacks like they do in the US. Our minimum is a trade paperback, even though it's an A-format size. That's one reason our minimum prices on print books are high, another being wages, transport, retail rents and so on. We just don't have the scale.

 
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2018, 02:04:56 PM »
And G.S.T, which seems to add maybe $3-$7 to the price of any given paperback, compared to pre GST days

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2018, 02:18:06 PM »
And G.S.T, which seems to add maybe $3-$7 to the price of any given paperback, compared to pre GST days

Heh. Not quite, but seems to is right ;-)  (Unless you mean the big B- and C- format trade paperbacks?)

To be fair, though, paperbacks were around the $18.95-$19.95 mark in 2000, now they're ... the same. Some are $22.95, but the price hasn't moved very much in almost 20 years.

 
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2018, 02:29:30 PM »
So this KDP author's copies issue -- if we can only get copies from the AU retail store, that means we can't actually get proof copies? Like at all?

(the purpose of proof copies being to check them before they go on sale)

I'm taking this venture step by step. Ultimately, my plan is to sell paperback on Amazon via KDP, and use IS for Expanded Distribution.

It feels so wrong to sell a product and not be able to check it first.

Ir's bizarre, Astrid.

Below is a copy of an email from KDP I received after asking them what options are available to Aussie authors re proofs.

"I understand your frustration in this matter. Please note that we had to change this due to the new Australian GST law.
Before publishing your paperback, it will go through two separate reviews to make sure our customers have a positive reading experience.

First, it will go through the online print previewer.
This tools allows you to see what your book cover and manuscript will look like before you publish it and will also help you identify formatting errors that need to be fixed before publishing. There are lines that show the “safe” areas on the cover and tool tips that appear when you hover your mouse near them. These tips provide helpful information to make sure nothing is getting cut off and your files are formatted according to the margin specification.

After you approve the paperback within the print previewer and click "save and publish" on the pricing page the book will go to our manual review team.

They look at image resolution, fonts, margin settings, and overall readability of your book. They also review all new or revised KDP books for compliance with our content guidelines. If they find any issues, they'll let you know via email.
Should you after this order a retail copy and still find the title to be faulty then please let us know. Should you wish you will be able to unpublish the book while you fix the issues you may have found."


So there you have it.

And to add insult to injury if we transfer our paperbacks from CreateSpace to KDP they will not be available to Aussie readers for 30 days - something they don't bother to tell us when they send their 'excited' email to announce that "that CreateSpace (CSP) and Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) will become one service."
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #62 on: October 09, 2018, 04:25:59 PM »
And G.S.T, which seems to add maybe $3-$7 to the price of any given paperback, compared to pre GST days

Heh. Not quite, but seems to is right ;-)  (Unless you mean the big B- and C- format trade paperbacks?)

To be fair, though, paperbacks were around the $18.95-$19.95 mark in 2000, now they're ... the same. Some are $22.95, but the price hasn't moved very much in almost 20 years.

Yep, that sounds about right, the trade ones took the brunt of the hike :)

If I search a bit, I can still get a pre-2000 (ish) price at a spot like Target but it's steeper in actual bookstores - but then, nothing quite beats going into an actual store to talk to folks about books so that's a nice trade-off for the extra cost

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Erron

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2018, 07:38:47 AM »
Difference between business name and imprint? Can someone explain it in terms of Australian authors? I know I have to register a business name, but what about imprint? Can I choose anything, or is there a separate registration process?

thanks...
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2018, 09:51:07 PM »
I'm seriously thinking of putting myself out "there" as an audiobook narrator and producer at $100 PFH. I'm Australian, and my accent is a deal-breaker for most non-Oz authors. After seven books of my own with good reviews, indicators are I'm good at the job. But $100 PFH is cheap, and maybe most will assume I can't produce a good audiobook... but I'm keen to try creating someone else's book and discover the demands and logistics that requires. That demands an untried, entry-level price.
I'm unashamedly fishing here for any thoughts or opinions that might let me take this further.

Thanks!
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2018, 10:36:03 PM »
I've been trying to record my own audiobook, but to be honest my time is better spent writing new work.

I'm more than happy with an aussie accent, and in fact an aussie actually recorded seven chapters of Hal 1 a year or so back and they sounded great.

(They got busy and dropped the project. It wasn't a paid deal, they approached me to have a go, with the idea of a profit share if/when the work was completed.)

I'm more than happy to discuss a proper contract with an estimate and an agreed PFH. I'll msg you now with my email.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2018, 01:23:10 PM »
How about a New Zealander living in Sydney? For eleven years so far. In that time, I've seen 8 Aussie prime ministers. a dead wombat lying legs up on the main road to Canberra, some kangaroos, a lot of Australians, and more.

I have written thriller & suspense novels. I like to write SF. I think I've met most of you before.

Will go and post something similar in the NZ writer support thread now.  grint

 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2018, 01:46:31 PM »
How about a New Zealander living in Sydney? For eleven years so far. In that time, I've seen 8 Aussie prime ministers. a dead wombat lying legs up on the main road to Canberra, some kangaroos, a lot of Australians, and more.

I have written thriller & suspense novels. I like to write SF. I think I've met most of you before.

Will go and post something similar in the NZ writer support thread now.  grint




Welcome! Although to be fair, measuring the passage of time in APMs is misleading in the extreme ;-)



 

nicole

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2018, 08:40:45 AM »
Hey! I'm an Aussie author/hermit from country Victoria. ;)
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Leo

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2018, 09:13:05 AM »
Hey! I'm an Aussie author/hermit from country Victoria. ;)
Six years self-pub, four years full time. Romance and UF, represent!

Hi Nicole, and welcome to our little community L)
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JB Rowley

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #70 on: October 19, 2018, 12:18:19 PM »
On the vexed issue of publishing paperback through KDP.

There was absolutely no indication from Amazon that there would be a 30 day delay before the paperback edition of the book I just published would be available to Australians (which includes the author). In fact their communication implied that the book would be available ‘within 3-5 days’.

I contacted KDP support to complain about the delay in making the paperback available and got the usual Amazon line about the Australian GST laws causing the problem and that they were working hard to improve the situation.

I then wrote to Jezz Bezos. I got fobbed off by one of his executives (who claimed Jeff had read the email) with the usual shifting of blame to the Australian Government. He totally ignored the main thrust of my email which was the problem of not communicating that there would be a delay. Surely that is well within the power of Amazon to control.

Anyway, I ordered a handful of copies to use for promotion via AusPost freight forwarding (Shopmate). Very easy to do and the books will be here next week which is fine. However, the cost of freight via this service, even with a ‘welcome’ discount of $10, is twice the cost that CreateSpace used to charge.

And now I wait. Will my paperbacks be available to the Australian market in 30 days? Or is there some other hidden hiccup waiting to cause further delays? :shrug
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2018, 01:32:09 PM »
Way, way,way off topic...but how many times can you say that your brother just purchased a town? According to Domain.com the most viewed property in Australia. Allies Creek is about 3 hours drive from Brisbane and boasts 12 homes, several large sheds including an old sawmill, a large dam and about twenty hectares.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/buying/entire-town-hits-market-for-unbelievable-price/news-story/d52ca67121c2f11eec1f280906684192

My brother and his wife are looking to turn the town into a multi-faceted facility for arts and crafts, recreational camping/holidaying and any other crazy schemes they can dream of. Just had to share, sorry for venturing so far off topic. Nobody but Australian would really care, so I didn't think appropriate for a general posting.
 
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2018, 01:57:38 PM »
Wow, that is awesome! Goodluck to your brother and his wife, what a bargain  grint
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Mammasan

Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2018, 02:10:29 AM »
I'm not trying to derail this thread in any way, but can I just slip in here and ask a question of any Australians here (I'm American)?

I'm watching an Australian TV show on Netflix called "Rake." Plotwise, it now involves the Australian government's conflicts. One of the running jokes is that when things are going the worst, someone will threaten to "call in the Americans," which is met with horror/terror. Could somebody explain the joke to me, i.e. why this is viewed with such horror (it's pretty funny, but I'd like to understand it)? Thanks.

Again, apologies for any derailment.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2018, 11:06:39 AM »
I'm not trying to derail this thread in any way, but can I just slip in here and ask a question of any Australians here (I'm American)?

I'm watching an Australian TV show on Netflix called "Rake." Plotwise, it now involves the Australian government's conflicts. One of the running jokes is that when things are going the worst, someone will threaten to "call in the Americans," which is met with horror/terror. Could somebody explain the joke to me, i.e. why this is viewed with such horror (it's pretty funny, but I'd like to understand it)? Thanks.

Again, apologies for any derailment.
Now, that would be opening the door to a thoroughly political discussion... where a lot of those emojis I see up top when typing this would probably come in handy.
 
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2018, 04:46:32 PM »
I'm not trying to derail this thread in any way, but can I just slip in here and ask a question of any Australians here (I'm American)?

I'm watching an Australian TV show on Netflix called "Rake." Plotwise, it now involves the Australian government's conflicts. One of the running jokes is that when things are going the worst, someone will threaten to "call in the Americans," which is met with horror/terror. Could somebody explain the joke to me, i.e. why this is viewed with such horror (it's pretty funny, but I'd like to understand it)? Thanks.

Again, apologies for any derailment.

I am not surprised that no one has attempted to answer this, particularly as this forum is predominantly populated by Americans. Mammasan, please understand that Aussie humour can be quite ribald and rude, and highly politically incorrect. We love to lampoon and imbibe in a daily feast of satire and irony. If you aren't Aussie, Kiwi or Pommie then our humour would seem rather 'strange'.
Post-apocalypse or epic fantasy anyone?
Or perhaps tarot and astrology are more up your alley?

 
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #76 on: October 28, 2018, 06:47:46 AM »
I'm not trying to derail this thread in any way, but can I just slip in here and ask a question of any Australians here (I'm American)?

I'm watching an Australian TV show on Netflix called "Rake." Plotwise, it now involves the Australian government's conflicts. One of the running jokes is that when things are going the worst, someone will threaten to "call in the Americans," which is met with horror/terror. Could somebody explain the joke to me, i.e. why this is viewed with such horror (it's pretty funny, but I'd like to understand it)? Thanks.

Again, apologies for any derailment.

Rake is produced in Sydney and I am in Melbourne so ‘call in the Americans’ might have taken on a more modern meaning in Sydney that I’m not aware of but I believe it is a reference to WW2.

During WW2 the British Prime Minister Winston Churchill made it clear he would not help protect Australia from a potential Japanese invasion. So the Australian Prime Minister John Curtin called on the Americans to help, asserting that Australia now ‘looks to America, free of any pangs as to our traditional links or kinship with the United Kingdom’. Shock and outrage rippled through the nation at this. How could we be so disloyal to Britain!
 
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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2018, 01:32:22 PM »
Oh wow.  I haven't checked to see whether we can now order our own paperbacks via Createspace.



https://thewest.com.au/business/retail/amazoncom-bows-to-pressure-reopens-global-store-to-australian-shoppers-ng-b881028518z

Amazon has stopped blocking Australians from shopping on its much larger US site after a customer backlash, dumping an unpopular policy the retail giant had said was necessary to comply with GST laws.

 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #78 on: November 22, 2018, 01:42:47 PM »
It's not working yet, but the article above says 'from nov 22nd', which I assume is tomorrow in our time zone.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #79 on: November 22, 2018, 01:48:23 PM »
Oh wow.  I haven't checked to see whether we can now order our own paperbacks via Createspace.



https://thewest.com.au/business/retail/amazoncom-bows-to-pressure-reopens-global-store-to-australian-shoppers-ng-b881028518z

Amazon has stopped blocking Australians from shopping on its much larger US site after a customer backlash, dumping an unpopular policy the retail giant had said was necessary to comply with GST laws.


   :clap:   

I wonder if Aussie authors can now order proof copies and author copies.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2018, 02:01:21 PM »
Not yet. I'll try again after 1am AWST
 

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« Reply #81 on: November 23, 2018, 05:51:28 AM »
Not yet. I'll try again after 1am AWST

Looks like proof and author copies are now available to us. I haven't tried placing an order but both options to order are now showing.
 

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #82 on: November 23, 2018, 10:56:34 AM »
Not yet. I'll try again after 1am AWST

Looks like proof and author copies are now available to us. I haven't tried placing an order but both options to order are now showing.

Not necessarily indicative. Quite often you can go through the entire process, and then it tells you it cant be shipped after all.

When someone confirms they actually ship, then we can celebrate.

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Re: AUSTRALIAN writer's support thread
« Reply #83 on: November 23, 2018, 12:42:26 PM »
I tried again and the message is the same: Amazon can't ship 'third party' items to Australia.

Now we probably need to hassle KDP.