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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by Hopscotch on October 29, 2025, 02:08:57 AM »
Elon Musk launches encyclopedia 'fact-checked' by AI...
Guardian   28 Oct 2025

"Elon Musk has launched an online encyclopedia named Grokipedia that he said relied on artificial intelligence...though many of its articles say they are based on Wikipedia itself....Calling an AI encyclopedia 'super important for civilization' Musk had been planning the Wikipedia rival for at least a month. Grokipedia does not have human authors...[and] is 'fact-checked' by Grok, Musk's AI chatbot....Some journalists have already accused Grokipedia of pushing inaccurate information, such as claiming that pornography made the Aids epidemic worse...."

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/28/elon-musk-grokipedia?CMP=share_btn_url
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by Post-Doctorate D on October 19, 2025, 11:52:42 AM »
I have no problem with anyone "incentivizing" copyright holders to license their works to AI companies.  But it needs to be negotiated with each rights holder and the default setting needs to be that a copyrighted work does not get used for AI training unless there is permission from the rights holder to do so.
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by Hopscotch on October 19, 2025, 05:12:43 AM »
The platform exposing exactly how much copyrighted art is used by AI tools
Guardian   18 Oct 2025

"...A key sticking point is the AI giants' closely-guarded models, which underpin their systems and make it difficult to know just how much their tech relies on other creatives' work. One firm, however, claims to be able to shine a light on the issue.  The US tech platform Vermillio tracks use of a client's intellectual property online and claims it is possible to trace, approximately, the percentage to which an AI generated image has drawn on pre-existing copyrighted material....the chief strategy officer at Vermillio?said: 'We can all win if we just take a beat and figure out a way to share and track content. This would incentivise copyright holders to release more data to AI companies and would give AI companies access to more interesting sets of data. Instead of giving all the money to five AI companies, there would be this amazing ecosystem.'..."

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/18/the-platform-exposing-exactly-how-much-copyrighted-art-is-used-by-ai-tools?CMP=share_btn_url

Sounds good but...I'm to feed the AI "ecosystem"?
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by LilyBLily on October 05, 2025, 05:55:32 AM »
Yes, a friend's dead mom's nonfiction was stolen, too. Who knows?

I would think that a 10% payout would be nice (although not exciting), but even a 1% payout would still be over $300 to me. Likely? I don't think so. On the other hand, this case has blown up so fast it will be hard to pad the attorneys' fees all the way to 100%.

We once received a class action payment for over $1k--and had to declare it as taxable income, by the way. Most payouts are under $30, and they also are taxable income. I'm sure some people don't declare those random checks for $12 or so, but once it's over $600, the issuing party has to send a 1099, and yeah, it's income tax time. There is an exception, but it has to do with physical injuries, and we certainly haven't been biffed over the head by LibGen or Anthropic. Thank goodness.

Edited to add: Actually, I would be very happy to receive enough of a payout to cover the production costs of my next several books.
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by Hopscotch on October 05, 2025, 02:58:31 AM »
Just one of mine, and oddly that's my least sold book.  But did find many by a dead friend - and he wrote highly technical, jargon-heavy nonfic histories of US military aircraft, making him the go-to guy for USAF designers seeking history of aircraft development.  Wonder what AI made of that?
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by Post-Doctorate D on October 04, 2025, 06:59:16 AM »
It's 7 million ebooks. There's a lot of authors ripped off.

And they are still getting ripped off.  It's an estimated $3,000 per work, but then attorneys' fees other costs will be deducted from that amount before the authors get anything.

Statutory fees for copyright infringement range between $750 and $30,000 per work infringed, plus attorneys' fees.

So, Anthropic is getting off easy and the attorneys will no doubt make out like bandits and authors get screwed again.
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by alhawke on October 04, 2025, 05:59:42 AM »
It's 7 million ebooks. There's a lot of authors ripped off. Check their database if you copyright your books. Stealing our works to train machines is not okay in my book. (no pun intended).

https://www.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com/
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by alhawke on October 04, 2025, 05:26:44 AM »
Three of mine. I'm submitting the form today
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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by LilyBLily on October 04, 2025, 03:57:13 AM »
If you find your books, you will need:

1. Names of any published before July 2021--That's the cutoff date for Anthropic taking the info from LibGen's pirate site.
2. ISBNs or ASINs
3. Your copyright registration number, which can be accessed a couple of ways, both on the lawsuit website and directly to the Copyright Office at https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/

If you already sent some info to the lawsuit people but haven't yet filed the official claim, you may notice that not all your books listed as stolen are on their list. In my case, it was just one book, so I added it to the list I submitted. Can't hurt.

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Bot Discussion Public / Re: AI book piracy lawsuit payout
« Last post by hungryboson on October 03, 2025, 11:57:43 PM »
A link to a searchable list of books that are included in the Anthropic settlement:
https://secure.anthropiccopyrightsettlement.com/lookup

I took it from John Sclazi's blog post: https://whatever.scalzi.com/2025/10/02/authors-time-to-get-that-bag/
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