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dgcasey

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A new AA question
« on: July 25, 2019, 12:06:11 PM »
This is probably a non-issue, but I thought I'd ask. I am running two AA ads at the moment and I am a very small fish in the pond. Two ads at $2 each per day for budget. But, this has happened a couple of times. Both ads are showing Out Of Budget right now, with four clicks total for the day between them. The question is, why is one of them listed Out Of Budget when they've only spent .79 cents of the budget with one click? I may not be great at math, but I think I still have $1.21 left in that budget. As for the other ad, it's sitting at $1.82 and listed OOB.

I realize some of you are spending that much in five minutes and I hope someday to reach that level. It's just one of those things that makes me go hmmmm? We won't even talk about how I figured out another money source and decided to dedicate it to AA by tripling my monthly budget and I am now having one of the single worst months in AA directed sales this year. I was doing better when I was spending two thirds less.
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Re: A new AA question
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2019, 12:09:55 PM »
I don't have an answer for you but I doubt AA ads would be effective for my books.  Pretty sure most buyers only purchase one of my books when they're drunk and have no idea what they're clicking.  Thus, ads tailored to people trying to stay sober probably wouldn't be worthwhile.
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notthatamanda

Re: A new AA question
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2019, 12:11:54 PM »
It does that.  You get close to the limit, it warns you. 

I'm finding things very slow right now, I assume it's the season, not an AA problem, but I really hope it picks up in September, if not sooner.
 

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Re: A new AA question
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2019, 01:01:13 PM »
It does that.  You get close to the limit, it warns you. 

I'm finding things very slow right now, I assume it's the season, not an AA problem, but I really hope it picks up in September, if not sooner.

Yeah, I'm considering backing off for the next month or so, until the kiddies go back to school. I just had a thought about my June ad numbers and it was one of the best months I've ever had. I'm guessing people were stocking up on books they wanted to read when they went on vacation. Now, they're on vacation and don't need to buy any books.
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Re: A new AA question
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2019, 08:52:37 PM »
If you don't do fixed bids, but allow the bids to go up by 100% or whatever in certain cases (likely sell, or top of page spot), then perhaps the next click could bring you over budget?
 

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Re: A new AA question
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2019, 08:59:42 PM »
If you don't do fixed bids, but allow the bids to go up by 100% or whatever in certain cases (likely sell, or top of page spot), then perhaps the next click could bring you over budget?
All my active campaigns are low dynamic.  I still get the warnings when I get close to the daily budget.
 

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Re: A new AA question
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2019, 06:07:53 AM »
If you don't do fixed bids, but allow the bids to go up by 100% or whatever in certain cases (likely sell, or top of page spot), then perhaps the next click could bring you over budget?

Okay, case in point. Today, both ads ($2 daily budget on each) are now out of budget. I have the dynamic bids set at 10% for the top of search and 25% for product pages. 0% for the last choice. This is the same for both ads.

One ad is sitting at $2.20 spend for the day and the other ad is sitting at 0.56 cents. The thing is, I have plenty of keywords in each ad that are set to .10 cents or less, so there's plenty of keywords that can still serve and stay under budget.

It makes no sense for the ad page to say both are out of budget.

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notthatamanda

Re: A new AA question
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2019, 09:27:55 AM »
No it doesn't.  It also doesn't make sense that one of your ads went over the daily budget.  That, I wouldn't like at all.

See if it spends more the rest of the day.   The other thing it could be (wild guess) since you are letting the bids go up, maybe it is watching the trends and knowing you aren't going to get the placement you want.
 

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Re: A new AA question
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2019, 10:43:48 AM »
Okay, I just sent a note to Amazon about this and we'll await their answer. But, I think I may have cracked the code and if I'm correct, it's silly beyond belief.  Check the screenshot below:

Now, here's my cloudy logic. Amazon says they average the spend over the month. So, if you have a $2.00 budget and there are 31 days in the month, you can expect to see a $62 spend. As you can see, the top ad, the one that only spent .56 cents today, has spent over $69 this month so far.

I'm sure you're asking, "But Dave, that's way over the $62 budget for the month." Yes it is. Why is that? Because I've played around with the budgets this month, like I do every month and at one point, paused the bottom ad and raised the top ad to $5 a day. For three days they had no problem spending every dime of that, but there was not one sale to show for it. So, I backed it back down to $2, but now the spend for the month was already past what a $2 budget would allow.

Why do I think that it's silly that Amazon does it this way (if they really do)? When you go Out Of Budget, your ad stops serving until midnight, at which time it gets turned back on. So I guess I would have to ask, why doesn't the budget just reset at midnight and go from there? If my budget is $5 a day for the first 15 days of the month and then I back it off to $2 a day, they're saying for the next 15-16 days I've already blown my budget for the month.

And I just thought of this just as I was getting ready to press Post. They are punishing you if you lower your bid. They're saying there are six days left in this month and we're going to strangle your impressions and clicks because you had the temerity to lower your budget.  :icon_think:


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I will not forget one line of this, not one day. I will always remember when the Doctor was me.
"The Tales of Garlan" title="The Tales of Garlan"
"Into The Wishing Well" title="Into The Wishing Well"
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I'm the Doctor by the way, what's your name? Rose. Nice to meet you, Rose. Run for your life!
 

notthatamanda

Re: A new AA question
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2019, 10:52:39 AM »
Why do I think that it's silly that Amazon does it this way (if they really do)? When you go Out Of Budget, your ad stops serving until midnight, at which time it gets turned back on. So I guess I would have to ask, why doesn't the budget just reset at midnight and go from there? If my budget is $5 a day for the first 15 days of the month and then I back it off to $2 a day, they're saying for the next 15-16 days I've already blown my budget for the month.

Okay, I get the monthly limit thing.  It will be interesting to know what they say.