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RBC

Do you find marketing a bit overwhelming sometimes? So much possible to do but you don't know where to focus, in what order or maybe even what to do at all?

There is a really cool and simple concept that explains and simplifies Marketing very well. Makes it very easy to know what to work on next. Deceptively simple, but really powerful. It's called the Tactical Triangle and it is from Perry Marshall (who wrote one of the best marketing/business books of all time - 80/20 Sales and Marketing). 

It's a diagram that breaks down marketing(and your business) into 3 parts - Traffic, Conversions and Economics. All 3 feed into each other and improving one a bit helps others thus making you more money.


The Triangle says: In order to sell something, you have to get Traffic; then you have to Convert the traffic; and Economics means you have to make some money on what you sell.

To apply it specifically to our industry, let's use example of growing your income with author website:

Traffic - traffic from Amazon and other sources that visit your website
Conversions - email subscribers and click-throughs to your books on Amazon
Economics - the average worth of an email subscriber (say $10 a year) and book sales achieved

And this plays out in your bottom line like this:

Example stats:

1000 people x 1% x $2 = $20

After 10% improvement on each stats would be:

1100 people x 1.1% x $2.2 = $26.6

That's over 30% improvement! 26.6 - 20 = 6.6 (improvement amount).

Easy application to your marketing:

You can plan out all  3 to be done in 1-month sprints:

January - you work on improving Traffic - sending more ads, writing more articles for Google SEO, posting more on Facebook groups etc etc
February - you work on improving Conversions - by testing and tweaking your optin form copywriting, testing your calls to action in books to see which send more email subscribers after reading etc
March - you work on improving Economics - done by raising prices, raising the average value of the reader by releasing new merch, new books, or working on lowering the costs of your ads).
April and onwards - rinse and repeat!

Or this could be done in Quarters, focusing on Traffic in Q1, Conversions in Q2 etc

All of this simplifies the process and small improvements add up and compound. Improve each thing by 10% and you will have yourself a big improvement in profit.


Applying this to Facebook or Amazon ads:

Traffic is the Impressions you get
Conversions is the Clicks you get
Economics is the Cost per Click

Then you can work on these and improve your ads!

Here is the original post and more general explanation of it:
https://www.perrymarshall.com/2100/tactical-triangle/

What to work on for these since there will be many ways to improve traffic etc? Apply 80/20 Principle. Work on most impactful thing first, that gives most ROI, then in the next phase you could focus on the weakest link to bring or the 2nd most impactful thing etc.

I hope this is useful and helps make your marketing life simple! See how it can apply to you and lets discuss, brainstorm etc.

EDIT: To simplify stuff more, you could add Writing and improving your craft there as another 'pillar' and schedule focus on improving it in another cycle (not writing the book, but actually learning more about writing). Then every 4 months you'd have an improvement in all the fields of your career. And it's easy to rotate them, track them in your head and know 'hey maybe I should work on improving X next month since it seems to be lagging).
« Last Edit: February 07, 2020, 03:35:42 AM by RBC »
 
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notthatamanda

Thanks for posting this. I need all the marketing help I can get. I went to the article and they opened up a pop up to chat with me. They asked me what kind of product I was looking to sell and I said I was a self published author. They said oh if you need anything, let us know and closed the chat.  Just to be clear, I thought that was funny.

Anyway, this year I have over 200K impressions on AMS so far.  I'm going to try to add some keywords every day, for each of the two books that I advertise on AMS on. That's what I need help on, traffic. But I feel like I have been struggling with scaling that up for a year and I need some new ideas.
 

RBC

Thanks for posting this. I need all the marketing help I can get. I went to the article and they opened up a pop up to chat with me. They asked me what kind of product I was looking to sell and I said I was a self published author. They said oh if you need anything, let us know and closed the chat.  Just to be clear, I thought that was funny.

Anyway, this year I have over 200K impressions on AMS so far.  I'm going to try to add some keywords every day, for each of the two books that I advertise on AMS on. That's what I need help on, traffic. But I feel like I have been struggling with scaling that up for a year and I need some new ideas.

They must be doing market research on what type of visitors visit them. Smart.

A month of one keyword added per day and testing them should be awesome. Many will not work probably but some will land and help. Good application of this it seems. Good stuff. Hope it will help! Keep us updated!
 

notthatamanda

I figured they were going to pitch me a consulting package or something, till they heard what it was I was selling.   :roll:

Then it was like okay bye.  All good.  I was thinking about how the article said each loop is a feedback loop, so if I want to increase traffic, increasing conversions and sales would help increase traffic.  I really think that is true because I believe the more I sell off the ads the more Amazon will want to show my ads.  I need to work on my blurbs.  :HB
 

RBC

I figured they were going to pitch me a consulting package or something, till they heard what it was I was selling.   :roll:

Then it was like okay bye.  All good.  I was thinking about how the article said each loop is a feedback loop, so if I want to increase traffic, increasing conversions and sales would help increase traffic.  I really think that is true because I believe the more I sell off the ads the more Amazon will want to show my ads.  I need to work on my blurbs.  :HB



Yeah, blurbs would be the Conversion side, improving that would mean you could by more traffic for the same price maybe (or that's more from improving your ads copywriting etc). I don't know if Amazon has the same type of algorythm for ads, as Facebooks does, where you get more traffic for better ads. I thought Amazon is all about price and bidding, unlike FB. You can definitely get more traffic from FB by using the traffic better.

The compound interest is the most amazing thing here for me. Example stats:

1000 people x 1% x $2 = $20

After 10% improvement on each stats would be:

1100 people x 1.1% x $2.2 = $26.6

That's over 30% improvement! 26.6 - 20 = 6.6 (improvement amount).

Smaller changes multiply into bigger one.

Hope blurb testing will work out! ;)

 

notthatamanda

I figured they were going to pitch me a consulting package or something, till they heard what it was I was selling.   :roll:

Then it was like okay bye.  All good.  I was thinking about how the article said each loop is a feedback loop, so if I want to increase traffic, increasing conversions and sales would help increase traffic.  I really think that is true because I believe the more I sell off the ads the more Amazon will want to show my ads.  I need to work on my blurbs.  :HB




The compound interest is the most amazing thing here for me. Example stats:

1000 people x 1% x $2 = $20

After 10% improvement on each stats would be:

1100 people x 1.1% x $2.2 = $26.6

That's over 30% improvement! 26.6 - 20 = 6.6 (improvement amount).

Smaller changes multiply into bigger one.

Hope blurb testing will work out! ;)

It's just my personal theory, that Amazon likes making money. Do they care how they make it? No. They will prioritize ads for books that make them money. They also care about user experience and there must be a tipping point where the user is browsing and not buying and gets frustrated. So they want to show people what they will most likely buy for that reason. There are going to be the people who are in browsing moods I guess.  I don't know why Amazon prioritizes books that do well in KU, unless those books are also selling a lot too.  All just guesses.

Edit - fixed the quote I screwed up.
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RBC

I figured they were going to pitch me a consulting package or something, till they heard what it was I was selling.   :roll:

Then it was like okay bye.  All good.  I was thinking about how the article said each loop is a feedback loop, so if I want to increase traffic, increasing conversions and sales would help increase traffic.  I really think that is true because I believe the more I sell off the ads the more Amazon will want to show my ads.  I need to work on my blurbs.  :HB


The compound interest is the most amazing thing here for me. Example stats:

1000 people x 1% x $2 = $20

After 10% improvement on each stats would be:

1100 people x 1.1% x $2.2 = $26.6

That's over 30% improvement! 26.6 - 20 = 6.6 (improvement amount).

Smaller changes multiply into bigger one.

Hope blurb testing will work out! ;)

It's just my personal theory, that Amazon likes making money. Do they care how they make it? No. They will prioritize ads for books that make them money. They also care about user experience and there must be a tipping point where the user is browsing and not buying and gets frustrated. So they want to show people what they will most likely buy for that reason. There are going to be the people who are in browsing moods I guess.  I don't know why Amazon prioritizes books that do well in KU, unless those books are also selling a lot too.  All just guesses.

Edit - fixed the quote I screwed up.

It's possible, just like FB algorithm rewards best ads with more impressions. I'd be surprised tho, I'd guess Amazon is behind FB in ad tech and abilities. AdWords seem like an easier thing to do (straight-up keyword bidding, which will make them more and more bank as time goes and competition between authors and other sellers increases).

 

notthatamanda

I've proven to myself there is more to it than that. I took a romance book that wasn't selling and I couldn't get into the top half of 100 pages of sponsored ads and raised the price to $7.99.  First page placement.  Book didn't sell because it was too expensive for romance, no reviews, or the moon was in Aquarius, but probably the first one. There could be another interpretation but that's what I came up with.
 
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RBC

I've proven to myself there is more to it than that. I took a romance book that wasn't selling and I couldn't get into the top half of 100 pages of sponsored ads and raised the price to $7.99.  First page placement.  Book didn't sell because it was too expensive for romance, no reviews, or the moon was in Aquarius, but probably the first one. There could be another interpretation but that's what I came up with.

Super interesting! Would be awesome to see how playing with prices and bidding affects that. $4.99 or something might be better balance and who knows, maybe you'd get sales.

Back on topic lol Hopefully, this concept will help. Then one day you can dominate ads and ranks :dance:
 

notthatamanda

I've proven to myself there is more to it than that. I took a romance book that wasn't selling and I couldn't get into the top half of 100 pages of sponsored ads and raised the price to $7.99.  First page placement.  Book didn't sell because it was too expensive for romance, no reviews, or the moon was in Aquarius, but probably the first one. There could be another interpretation but that's what I came up with.

Super interesting! Would be awesome to see how playing with prices and bidding affects that. $4.99 or something might be better balance and who knows, maybe you'd get sales.

Back on topic lol Hopefully, this concept will help. Then one day you can dominate ads and ranks :dance:
Huh, you know I don't think I ever tried a mid point range. Might be worth a shot. Thanks a bunch.
Sorry for going off topic.
 
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Re: Tactical Triangle - Simplifying Book Marketing and Make It More Effective
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2020, 12:58:53 AM »
I've proven to myself there is more to it than that. I took a romance book that wasn't selling and I couldn't get into the top half of 100 pages of sponsored ads and raised the price to $7.99.  First page placement.  Book didn't sell because it was too expensive for romance, no reviews, or the moon was in Aquarius, but probably the first one. There could be another interpretation but that's what I came up with.

Super interesting! Would be awesome to see how playing with prices and bidding affects that. $4.99 or something might be better balance and who knows, maybe you'd get sales.

Back on topic lol Hopefully, this concept will help. Then one day you can dominate ads and ranks :dance:
Huh, you know I don't think I ever tried a mid point range. Might be worth a shot. Thanks a bunch.
Sorry for going off topic.

No biggie. Happy to see this thread spark any kind of help and ideas. We could count it as working on Economics part of triangle :D
 

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Re: Tactical Triangle - Simplifying Book Marketing and Make It More Effective
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2020, 02:49:43 AM »
Should this discussion be in public?
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2020, 04:43:55 AM »
Thanks for your concern, but I want to learn how AMS works, the better to utilize it, so I am open to sharing this data in the hopes that we can figure it out together.  But if you want to put it somewhere else, you can crop it out of the thread.  Honestly, I've told people this before and no one seems to believe me so  :shrug
 

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2020, 07:09:57 AM »
Should this discussion be in public?

The Amazon part? Or Triangle?  :icon_think:

 

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2020, 12:06:15 PM »
Should this discussion be in public?

The Amazon part? Or Triangle?  :icon_think:

All of it?

But I was mainly thinking of personal details of whats been done. This is all going into google et al.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2020, 12:17:16 PM »
I don't want to kill RBC's thread so you can delete that stuff out or move it.  Or should I do that? I trust you know more about this stuff than I do. Thanks.
 

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2020, 12:18:33 PM »
I don't want to kill RBC's thread so you can delete that stuff out or move it.  Or should I do that? I trust you know more about this stuff than I do. Thanks.

Moving it into the private area isn't going to kill off the thread.
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2020, 12:22:13 PM »
Yes true, sorry, it's late here. But it's my comments that were the problem and he originally posted it for public consumption.
 

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2020, 12:26:40 PM »
It's early for me here, so of course I messed up the move. Sorry, no links.
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2020, 08:25:02 PM »
I don't want to kill RBC's thread so you can delete that stuff out or move it.  Or should I do that? I trust you know more about this stuff than I do. Thanks.

Moving it into the private area isn't going to kill off the thread.

It's not gonna help it much either. This concept is what I want to be highly public. No expectations for people to share real numbers. It's more important to 'get' the concept and apply it. That can be discussed with fake numbers.


 

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2020, 09:01:24 PM »
Sorry about this.  Cut and paste the original post back into the public area?
 
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2020, 09:25:15 PM »
Sorry about this.  Cut and paste the original post back into the public area?

Don't worry, I don't think you shared anything worth being private. I'll be posting this on Kboards soon for broader reach, maybe FB group or two. I like posting here first, discussing, then can write up an article etc.
 
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2020, 09:51:38 PM »
I lurk on kboards so I look for the comments there.
There was a good article there yesterday someone posted about social media.
And I'm off topic again...
World was a better place when I just lurked.
But thank you for the original article.
 
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2020, 01:00:27 AM »
You should have just said no to Timothy. :-)

I doubt he would have argued with you about keeping it in the public forum if you had said flat out that you don't want it moved and don't mind your numbers being public.

I think he just errs on the side of caution for the benefit of the members. :D

He's been pretty open about the fact that he wants people to tell him what they want because he can't read minds.
Don't rush me.
 
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2020, 01:03:04 AM »
I can move it back if everyone agrees.
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2020, 01:08:10 AM »
I'm fine with it.
 

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2020, 01:10:37 AM »
Done.
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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2020, 02:24:14 AM »
You should have just said no to Timothy. :-)

I doubt he would have argued with you about keeping it in the public forum if you had said flat out that you don't want it moved and don't mind your numbers being public.

I think he just errs on the side of caution for the benefit of the members. :D

He's been pretty open about the fact that he wants people to tell him what they want because he can't read minds.

I was asleep. It all happened at night, my time. :D