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LilyBLily

Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« on: October 12, 2019, 02:07:04 PM »
https://kindlepreneur.com/7-kindle-keywords/

They make sense, and he's got Actual Statistical Research (TM) to back them up.

Vinjii

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2019, 09:18:38 PM »
Thank you for posting this. This is incredibly helpful data as I've been confused about this keyword thing for a while!  :goodpost:
 

Simon Haynes

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2019, 10:44:53 PM »
https://kindlepreneur.com/7-kindle-keywords/

They make sense, and he's got Actual Statistical Research (TM) to back them up.


Thanks from me too. I've always under-used the keyword fields, even after buying kdp rocket (/publisher rocket).

Definitely something I'll be taking another look at.





 
 
 

 
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Kristen.s.walker

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2019, 12:58:15 AM »
This was interesting and I'll definitely be taking another look at my keywords.
 

Gerri Attrick

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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2019, 03:08:45 AM »
Thanks for the link, Lily.

My ageing prawny brain struggled with a lot of it (and I abhor marketing and techno speak) but I think I got the gist. While a lot of it sounded like an advert for Rocket, there was enough gold in that post to be useful.

Is Kindle Rocket as good as they claim - and is selling books about nothing more than having the right keywords or search engine terms?
 

Tom Wood

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2019, 03:38:10 AM »
One of the most valuable takeaways is proof that Amazon creates all those iterations of the keywords within a keyword box. That they do rearrange the words to find all the possible variations, and then uses those new phrases as search term matches. I wonder if they also mix across all seven keyword boxes.
 

JRTomlin

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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2019, 03:43:33 AM »
I did not find it as good as they claim but take that as one person's experience who writes in one particular genre.

Having the right keywords helps. That is certainly not all it is about.
 
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Simon Haynes

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2019, 03:49:45 AM »
One of the most valuable takeaways is proof that Amazon creates all those iterations of the keywords within a keyword box. That they do rearrange the words to find all the possible variations, and then uses those new phrases as search term matches.

Yep, that'll change my approach for sure. Also no need to use plurals.

 
 
 

 
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JRTomlin

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2019, 04:48:15 AM »
What I am not clear on - and it is rather important imo - is whether ALL of the words in the keyword box must be matched. That seems to at least somewhat be the implication, that they rearrange them but all must be matched.

If I put in the series of words: Scottish historical fiction series, will it ignore Scottish if people search for historical fiction series or not?

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Tom Wood

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2019, 04:56:13 AM »
Go ask: https://kindlepreneur.com/7-kindle-keywords/

He's active in the comments.
 

Simon Haynes

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2019, 04:57:56 AM »
It sounded to me like they're NOT all required to be matched. Every keyword/pair/etc in any order appears to be used.

Pretty clear in this para from the article:

Therefore, if you typed in ďDragon War MageĒ into one of the 7 keyword boxes, you would also be indexed for War Dragon Mage, Mage Dragon, War Mage, Mage, and all other versions of the phrase.

 
 
 

 
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2019, 04:58:54 AM »
Good point on the Dragon Mage. That does answer my question and I overlooked it.
 

Tom Wood

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2019, 05:03:33 AM »
My question about crossover between the seven boxes came up right away (by someone else) in the comments:

"Wow and thank you! My take away question is based upon your findings that Amazon will use all possible combinations of your keywords in a box (fantasy war mage dragon). What if these words were spread between different boxes? In other words if "war" was in box 1 and "dragon" in box 2, would the book still rank for "dragon war" and any other combinations of those two words? ..."

Dave Chesson:
Sadly, I totally didn't think about that and thus didn't test for it. Someone else brought that up on my team at the end of testing, and I was sooo bummed I hadn't thought of that. However, that is something I'll do later in a future test because that is a GREAT question.
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2019, 06:05:03 AM »
What I took from it was that if you want to end up higher in the rank, you're going to have to choose to forego the extra keywords.

As usual, it comes down to needing to test each book to see if it does better with specific keyword phrases that rank the book higher or if the book does better ranking lower for lots of keywords. The net effect, in other words.

It always comes down to experimentation, IMO, which is very time consuming to collect! :D
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Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2019, 10:02:20 AM »
I'm trying this theory. We'll see if it lights a fire under my new book. Below are the combinations I chose: They don't make a lot of sense just reading them, but if I understood the article, the trick is to combine keywords that people might search for (related to the book, of course) So far this month I've sold 17 copies on Amazon, so I can use that as a measurement.

Medieval Historical 
Cultural Heritage saga
young adult clean and wholesome
 fantasy romance  special needs
Teen & Young Adult Epic Fantasy
action fable royalty
 science fiction values
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Simon Haynes

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2019, 02:50:09 PM »
Well...

(I just picked random words from your keywords)

 
 
 

 
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Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2019, 12:17:37 AM »
Well...

(I just picked random words from your keywords)

As I understood the article, Amazon will index it separately in all three - clean, special needs, and fable. I could be wrong, but I just changed them Sunday so it's a little early to tell if it will work. Maybe I didn't understand your post?
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Simon Haynes

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2019, 12:44:03 AM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.

And yours was the #1 search result when I used several phrases at random, which shows it's working. (Not restricted to words from one box, or words in the order you specified.)

 
 
 

 
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Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2019, 12:45:13 AM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.

And yours was the #1 search result when I used several phrases at random, which shows it's working. (Not restricted to words from one box, or words in the order you specified.)

Cool, thanks!
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JA Wallace

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2019, 10:08:08 AM »
Very helpful, thank you!
 

sandree

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2019, 09:25:04 PM »
I changed my keywords as described above. I am way below prawnie. My sales have been nothing and my page reads crickets for a little while. After I changed the keywords my page reads picked up and my ranking is a little better. Iím not sure if I can attribute it to the keywords or to a recent free promo or a couple of nice reviews on Goodreads. But maybe the keyword change has helped? So - many thanks for posting this.

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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2019, 03:24:39 AM »
Welp, I'm off to review and change my keywords! :dizzy
 

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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2019, 03:40:42 AM »
I need to do this soon. Thanks for posting the tips.


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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2019, 07:34:18 PM »
Welp, I'm off to review and change my keywords! :dizzy

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2019, 05:21:35 AM »
I changed my keywords as described above. I am way below prawnie. My sales have been nothing and my page reads crickets for a little while. After I changed the keywords my page reads picked up and my ranking is a little better. Iím not sure if I can attribute it to the keywords or to a recent free promo or a couple of nice reviews on Goodreads. But maybe the keyword change has helped? So - many thanks for posting this.

Well, not sure the keyword change is what was helping. Petering out again. Who knows?

Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2019, 05:32:04 AM »
I changed my keywords as described above. I am way below prawnie. My sales have been nothing and my page reads crickets for a little while. After I changed the keywords my page reads picked up and my ranking is a little better. Iím not sure if I can attribute it to the keywords or to a recent free promo or a couple of nice reviews on Goodreads. But maybe the keyword change has helped? So - many thanks for posting this.
Well, not sure the keyword change is what was helping. Petering out again. Who knows?


What I do when a book doesn't sell is rework the blurb, make it more exciting and mysterious. Just a suggestion.
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2019, 08:24:37 AM »
Thanks, LilyBLily. I have wondered about it for ages.  :tup3b
 

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2019, 10:36:03 PM »
So I changed my keyword phrases yesterday and they are now live. These are the three main phrases and results if I type in the whole phrase:

1.   A quick & easy self-help guide to public speaking (my book shows up on page 1) (if I use just 'a self-help guide to public speaking' my book is on page 9 of 25 pages.
2.   How to gain confidence in public speaking (my book shows up on page 1)
3.   How to take the fear out of public speaking (my book shows up on page 1)

My title includes the phrase 'how to take the terror out of public speaking' and that comes up No1 out of 2 books if I use the complete phrase.

But if I type in just 'public speaking' my book is on page 50 out of 297 pages. I'm wondering if I should make one of my keyword phrases just 'public speaking' and see how that works. :icon_rolleyes:

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2019, 10:48:27 PM »
When I type in "public speaking" in the Kindle store it suggests:
"Public Speaking" followed by
"Public Speaking for Success"

 

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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2019, 11:34:24 PM »
When I type in "public speaking" in the Kindle store it suggests:
"Public Speaking" followed by
"Public Speaking for Success"

I tried using the 'suggestions' for my original phrases, but didn't have much luck with my book showing up.  :icon_cry: At least my book now shows up when I type in the phrase, but I'm wondering if most people wouldn't just type in 'public speaking' and see which books come up. I've got 'public speaking' in all my phrases, but it didn't seem to help - but I suppose it could be worse, at least my book was on page 50 and not on page 297  Grin

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2019, 12:15:40 AM »
When I type in "public speaking" in the Kindle store it suggests:
"Public Speaking" followed by
"Public Speaking for Success"

I tried using the 'suggestions' for my original phrases, but didn't have much luck with my book showing up.  :icon_cry: At least my book now shows up when I type in the phrase, but I'm wondering if most people wouldn't just type in 'public speaking' and see which books come up. I've got 'public speaking' in all my phrases, but it didn't seem to help - but I suppose it could be worse, at least my book was on page 50 and not on page 297  Grin


Just as a test, I typed "Public speaking." The first book's category is:
#63 in Sales & Selling (Kindle Store)
#211 in Sales & Selling (Books)
#186 in Business Leadership (Kindle Store)
     The second on the list:
#283 in Public Speaking Reference
#247 in Running Meetings & Presentations (Kindle Store)
#96 in Public Speaking & Speech Writing
   Third on the list:
#1 in Public Speaking Reference
#6 in Running Meetings & Presentations (Kindle Store)
#1 in Public Speaking & Speech Writing
        4th
#1 in Commercial Law
#1 in Language Experience Approach Education
#1 in Vocational Test Guides (Kindle Store)
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What I got from the article was that Amazon has a maximum allowed characters in each keyword, and will ignore the rest. Maybe you could combine some of the examples above like - meetings sales public speaking education - instead of a full phrase? Just a thought. (I didn't count the characters.)
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2019, 01:24:02 AM »
When I type in "public speaking" in the Kindle store it suggests:
"Public Speaking" followed by
"Public Speaking for Success"

I tried using the 'suggestions' for my original phrases, but didn't have much luck with my book showing up.  :icon_cry: At least my book now shows up when I type in the phrase, but I'm wondering if most people wouldn't just type in 'public speaking' and see which books come up. I've got 'public speaking' in all my phrases, but it didn't seem to help - but I suppose it could be worse, at least my book was on page 50 and not on page 297  Grin


Just as a test, I typed "Public speaking." The first book's category is:
#63 in Sales & Selling (Kindle Store)
#211 in Sales & Selling (Books)
#186 in Business Leadership (Kindle Store)
     The second on the list:
#283 in Public Speaking Reference
#247 in Running Meetings & Presentations (Kindle Store)
#96 in Public Speaking & Speech Writing
   Third on the list:
#1 in Public Speaking Reference
#6 in Running Meetings & Presentations (Kindle Store)
#1 in Public Speaking & Speech Writing
        4th
#1 in Commercial Law
#1 in Language Experience Approach Education
#1 in Vocational Test Guides (Kindle Store)
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What I got from the article was that Amazon has a maximum allowed characters in each keyword, and will ignore the rest. Maybe you could combine some of the examples above like - meetings sales public speaking education - instead of a full phrase? Just a thought. (I didn't count the characters.)

Thanks so much for doing that  :Tup2:. It won't let you put more than the 50 characters in each box. I used the advice from the article to have 3 key phrases and mix up the rest. I have combined some of the other keywords in the other boxes. e.g. self-development through public speaking. I'm trying to have a wide audience as everyone will need to make a speech of some sort and it is a good career move to learn public speaking.  My cover mentions advancing your career and social network, but I don't think anyone would use that as a 'search'.

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Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2019, 01:36:31 AM »
When I type in "public speaking" in the Kindle store it suggests:
"Public Speaking" followed by
"Public Speaking for Success"

I tried using the 'suggestions' for my original phrases, but didn't have much luck with my book showing up.  :icon_cry: At least my book now shows up when I type in the phrase, but I'm wondering if most people wouldn't just type in 'public speaking' and see which books come up. I've got 'public speaking' in all my phrases, but it didn't seem to help - but I suppose it could be worse, at least my book was on page 50 and not on page 297  Grin


Just as a test, I typed "Public speaking." The first book's category is:
#63 in Sales & Selling (Kindle Store)
#211 in Sales & Selling (Books)
#186 in Business Leadership (Kindle Store)
     The second on the list:
#283 in Public Speaking Reference
#247 in Running Meetings & Presentations (Kindle Store)
#96 in Public Speaking & Speech Writing
   Third on the list:
#1 in Public Speaking Reference
#6 in Running Meetings & Presentations (Kindle Store)
#1 in Public Speaking & Speech Writing
        4th
#1 in Commercial Law
#1 in Language Experience Approach Education
#1 in Vocational Test Guides (Kindle Store)
***
What I got from the article was that Amazon has a maximum allowed characters in each keyword, and will ignore the rest. Maybe you could combine some of the examples above like - meetings sales public speaking education - instead of a full phrase? Just a thought. (I didn't count the characters.)

Thanks so much for doing that  :Tup2:. It won't let you put more than the 50 characters in each box. I used the advice from the article to have 3 key phrases and mix up the rest. I have combined some of the other keywords in the other boxes. e.g. self-development through public speaking. I'm trying to have a wide audience as everyone will need to make a speech of some sort and it is a good career move to learn public speaking.  My cover mentions advancing your career and social network, but I don't think anyone would use that as a 'search'.

Cool, you're way ahead of me. You go girl!
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2019, 04:49:31 AM »
Does anyone know when keyword changes take effect?  On a new book?  On an already published book?

Just curious.  I published a new book last week and it does not show up in the search results for the a keyword phrase I added in the keywords list and which is also in the title itself.  So far, it only shows under a search for my name, which, I am reasonably certain, is a keyword NO ONE searches for.  LOL.
 

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2019, 05:42:26 AM »
Does anyone know when keyword changes take effect?  On a new book?  On an already published book?

Just curious.  I published a new book last week and it does not show up in the search results for the a keyword phrase I added in the keywords list and which is also in the title itself.  So far, it only shows under a search for my name, which, I am reasonably certain, is a keyword NO ONE searches for.  LOL.

When I changed my keyword phrase it came up within 12 hours. Give us the keyword phrase and we can try it.

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2019, 06:23:17 AM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.


I didn't know that. Thank you! That insight is huge for me.

But I'm still unsure on how to proceed with # of keywords. 3? My understanding from Dave Chesson's article was that more words listed are better than just one per keyword per keyword block. AND, repeating the same keywords is not recommended. So, should I pack the full 50 characters for all keyword blocks? But then, you guys are hinting that the specificity goes down with the more words you use and this lowers your book on its search. So is the consensus that the more words, the better, up to 3?
 

Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2019, 01:34:16 PM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.


I didn't know that. Thank you! That insight is huge for me.

But I'm still unsure on how to proceed with # of keywords. 3? My understanding from Dave Chesson's article was that more words listed are better than just one per keyword per keyword block. AND, repeating the same keywords is not recommended. So, should I pack the full 50 characters for all keyword blocks? But then, you guys are hinting that the specificity goes down with the more words you use and this lowers your book on its search. So is the consensus that the more words, the better, up to 3?

The more words that readers might search for the better is what I understood.
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2019, 02:28:45 AM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.


I didn't know that. Thank you! That insight is huge for me.

But I'm still unsure on how to proceed with # of keywords. 3? My understanding from Dave Chesson's article was that more words listed are better than just one per keyword per keyword block. AND, repeating the same keywords is not recommended. So, should I pack the full 50 characters for all keyword blocks? But then, you guys are hinting that the specificity goes down with the more words you use and this lowers your book on its search. So is the consensus that the more words, the better, up to 3?

The more words that readers might search for the better is what I understood.

I understood it that you choose three keyword phrases that describe your book. You then use the other boxes to stuff keywords that readers might use to search.

For Nonfiction create a list of words that Describe:
1.   The pain points of your target reader
2.   The success your reader hopes to gain from your book
3.   The type of reader or their demographic
4.   Descriptive words
5.   Synonyms of the above
If you follow these steps for each, you should not have a problem at all coming up with multiple 50 character boxes and should help to increase your bookís indexing on Amazon.
Conclusion
As you can see, the more words you put into the boxes, the more you will index for on Amazon. But, at the same time, youíll weaken your overall rankings for those terms since their power will be diluted.
Through this experiment, we now see that authors should use a combination of the two tactics where they target specific words or phrases that best fit their book, but also reserve certain keyword boxes for including the other terms and phrases not included.  This will give you the most optimal rankings and indexing so you can get your book found by readers.


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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2019, 05:55:37 AM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.


I didn't know that. Thank you! That insight is huge for me.

But I'm still unsure on how to proceed with # of keywords. 3? My understanding from Dave Chesson's article was that more words listed are better than just one per keyword per keyword block. AND, repeating the same keywords is not recommended. So, should I pack the full 50 characters for all keyword blocks? But then, you guys are hinting that the specificity goes down with the more words you use and this lowers your book on its search. So is the consensus that the more words, the better, up to 3?

The more words that readers might search for the better is what I understood.

I understood it that you choose three keyword phrases that describe your book. You then use the other boxes to stuff keywords that readers might use to search.




Thanks, Jan & Marti. I follow now.

Got some work ahead of me changing keywords.  grint
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2019, 06:00:08 AM »
What I meant to illustrate is that Amazon seems to generate search phrases from words contained in different keyword boxes.


I didn't know that. Thank you! That insight is huge for me.

But I'm still unsure on how to proceed with # of keywords. 3? My understanding from Dave Chesson's article was that more words listed are better than just one per keyword per keyword block. AND, repeating the same keywords is not recommended. So, should I pack the full 50 characters for all keyword blocks? But then, you guys are hinting that the specificity goes down with the more words you use and this lowers your book on its search. So is the consensus that the more words, the better, up to 3?

The more words that readers might search for the better is what I understood.

I understood it that you choose three keyword phrases that describe your book. You then use the other boxes to stuff keywords that readers might use to search.




Thanks, Jan & Marti. I follow now.

Got some work ahead of me changing keywords.  grint

I wonder how many readers actually search by phrases. Anyone?
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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2019, 08:20:07 PM »


I wonder how many readers actually search by phrases. Anyone?
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That is the 'key' question  :icon_mrgreen:

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2019, 08:50:22 PM »
As a user, I usually type something in and pick from the list Amazon gives me to select from.
Sometimes I am highly dependent on that list to find the right thing, not just talking about books.
 

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Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2019, 02:26:59 AM »
As a user, I usually type something in and pick from the list Amazon gives me to select from.
Sometimes I am highly dependent on that list to find the right thing, not just talking about books.

I did that with my first set of keyword phrases, but it didn't put my book anywhere near the first few pages of the search result, or bring in any sales. Maybe I should try it again.  :icon_rolleyes:

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alhawke

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2019, 05:52:24 AM »
According to KDP Publisher Rocket, Dave Chesson's Keyword Search garners a specific # of searches per month. This is pretty amazing, because it is in the hundreds to thousands per keyword phrase. I've always used KDP Publisher Rocket in the past, but now - when I get down to it - I'm gonna look at all the keyword sections in a more "3D" sort of way too.

Are people actually typing in these exact phrases, or is it a combo of words? I dunno.

For me, if I put in my specific phrases, I don't see my book for a number of pages. But if I add a string of keywords, it comes up immediately.

Just to become even more confusing, ranking will position your book, of course. And I believe Amazon's algorithm also responds to how many people type in the word and actually click on your book (but I might be mistaken here).
 

alhawke

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2019, 01:58:46 AM »
I did the changes. The search seems better (Thanks again!), but ? improvement in sales. I figure it has to be bringing more traffic.

Here's a question: For those of you who have a paperback through KDP, do you use the same keywords for your paperback or do you use entirely different keywords to bring in more readers?
 

Marti Talbott

Re: Some Kindle Keyword Tips from Dave Chesson
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2019, 02:19:15 AM »
At this point, I think the more keywords the better. It's worth a try.
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